Nice, mature post. Wait, did you post this for the 'good of the community' too bro?

 

Wow. I am speachless after looking at that one...

It's even advertised as a "Magnus".

 

People are arguing not because of "opinions", but because of those personal opinions and mistruths being presented to the public, AS FACTS.

If someone was slandering your products and your shop name all over the internet, would you not want to argue?

Personally, I applaud Marco for being the bigger man about this, and not getting in the middle. I know I'd have a real hard time staying off the keyboard if it were my parts getting ****-talked all over the 'net.

 

I have confidence in my work probably just like Marco does and I have never been put into the same asituation so I am not sure how I would act.

 

Its Magnus Race Manifold the dual plenum or something like that.

 

Somewhere in the mix you have been led away from reality. IMHO I could care less how wrong you think we were. WHY? because I didn't post anything that wasn't true. Ask those who initially read and saw the thread to see whether or not it was a bashing session, or if it were an attempt to alert people of a failed product. Not something we have seen ONCE or twice. BUT MANY times. Three times just in 1 month. Last year is a completely different ballgame.
Aside from that, I also mention that DAVE has it correct. What does that mean? I agree with him about using a stock manifold. WHY? because it works and works well. It will NOT crack, LEAK, give good all around power and low end torque, retains plenty of the emissions standards that almost all of you HAVE to run. (more so because of the hassle)
DID you see me post a fancy graph and say dont buy a MAGNUS product? NO you haven't.
As for your comment about a collaboration with DB? You really need to do more research. Either way, were in the same industry and regardless of any past arguments or any BS, I respect him just like any other person or vendor on this forum. He is allowed to voice his opinion on the matter just as you are. Does it mean we agree, NO, but sometimes we do.
I spoke with Marco yesterday at length. If you have any concerns about my involvement in a conspiracy, maybe you should ask him what I think. He was satisfied with my answer and my feelings on the subject. So I am sure you would be fine with it as well.
I also went back yesterday and EDITED some of the posts in this thread. WHY? because after speaking with John (bradley) it was a wise move. EVEN though I never implicated anyone, someone would misconstrue, as you did, that I was asking for someone to be hanged in public. That is not the case. If you look at the original thread and posts you will see very clearly that all the edits were to make sure that MAGNUS, was cleared of any rumors toward this product. WHY? Again because it IS clearly a fake with his name plate on it. After speaking ith Marco about it yesterday, I directed my attention to his site http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/
It has completely different markings, access points, cnc engraving, and completely different welds. SO it is and was concluded to be a fake. I edited the posts and case closed. If you want to continue in your crusade go ahead.
We have better things to do. Sorry, but we were just trying to look out and post about a product that obviously alot of people in our area are running. Its unfortunate that people pay alot of money for a product they think is genuine. And at first glance it sure looks like it if you really have never seen anything BUT KNOCKOFFS of the same product for a while.

Nick
DTM

 

That is CRAZY, that thing is OBVIOUSLY a fake with MAGNUS stamped on it

compare to this:
http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/images/intake_comp.jpg


Even DTM backed off the claims. Buschur, you are totally in the wrong here. I think you owe marco an apology and you were already busted once for using a different baseline pull against the magnus than all the other manifolds when you claimed 18hp loss then it dropped down to 8hp. I would like to see both dyno sheets for the magnus since you moved 10hp in back to back pulls on the stock manifold.

 

I see, but when you post a pic of a Pot talking to a Kettle, it makes me think you are saying I'm the Pot calling the Kettle black.

I simply stated that DTM and DB were acting like 12 year olds, because they were, DTM has since posted a very mature post, and I respect him for changing his posts, admitting he was wrong, talking with Marco and JB, and getting more facts.



You are reading WAY to much into what I said. Because I said they were acting like 12 year olds suddenly means I'm dismissing the truth? Umm, no. It's posts like this that made me say that:

I'm not the only one who thought his posts were less than mature.

 

^^woohoo...10hp difference....big deal. It still lost power over the stock manifold. Whereas every other manifold gained power.

 

Were going to put this to rest very shortly. I just got off the phone with Marco and purchased one of his standard manifolds fitted for a stock throttle body.
No matter what anyones tests show or say, Just knowing for myself is worth more to us than any single test done by anyone.
Let me completely clear, Marco is not giving us anything nor did he ask us to test anything. I called him this morning and asked him how much and here is the CC Number.
As soon as it comes in, Ill put the car on the dyno and let everyone know, its just that simple.

 

Woohooo an independant test.... I assume this test you will do will be for a small'ish size turbo as you did not order the race version. Correct?

And by cheering that this is an independant test I don't not mean to be saying Dave's or Marco's test were not fair. Just that the more tests the better.

 

Guess I better brush up on my videography skills.

 

Hows that access working out for you?

 

You are correct. I am not sure yet if I will test it in a stock turbo.
We may have to because it would be an accurate assessment of the claims mentioned above.

Either way it will be on our TA car with a 50 trim. Its rather small that flows about 57 lbs per minute.

 

I want to see the other dyno sheet, I want to see both runs from the magnus. What if the run he used from the magnus was its low run. We just moved the stock manifold down 10hp by using the second pull -10hp. What if we are still comparing the magnus second pull, not the first one. If the first pull was up 10hp from there the magnus could have actually gained power if you compare second run stock to second run magnus. And its not impossible David is filtering what we see to mislead us. Thats why I don't trust tests where lots of things are kept secret. Thats why I trust Marco's test a lot more. Much more open with the data and results.

It's easy enough to settle, just post the other magnus dyno sheet. Would that even be worth talking about if the old design magnus had a marginal increase in power (10hp) but the new design magnus had 40whp?


Also I am still waiting for an answer why the guy on Buschur forums who even after being told by buschur the old style intake didnt make power posted with results that are the opposite of Buschurs?