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Old May 28, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Matt we all know u love the 35R talk is cheap...go buy it.
diffrent stroke's for diffrent stroke' s my brotha..who care's abouth the 35R! were talking about the 30R .Of course it makes more power than a 30R is that ya point? it's a FACT already.i personally are going to have the HTA35R nest summer but only with a built bottom end.BUT my car is far from a slouch. u sit here and bash it everywhere u post ...lol meanwhile your on a stock turbo..
+1...I agree 100% with you NYC drifter........No **** the 35r crushes the 30r. It flows more. Like NYC drifter said said this is about the 30r. My car is no slouch either. I love my 30r. I want a 35r but like he said ill feel better with a built block. An HTA35r that is pushed would kill a stock block
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Old May 28, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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disclaimer: did not have time to read every page of this thread...


Judging by the 30+psi HTA 3076 vs HTA 35 dynograph (both with .82's) -- the HTA 3076 spooled maybe 200rpm sooner and made 100whp less than the HTA 35 -- so, why are we all celebrating again?


we're talking about 200rpm here, people...
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Old May 28, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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r u serious only 200 rpm sooner?
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Stikiller666
+1...I agree 100% with you NYC drifter........No **** the 35r crushes the 30r. It flows more. Like NYC drifter said said this is about the 30r. My car is no slouch either. I love my 30r. I want a 35r but like he said ill feel better with a built block. An HTA35r that is pushed would kill a stock block
I agree with you. I read the hta30r spools 3-500rpms sooner. I bought an hta30r because I am on stock block. I feel it will be the one of the best setups for stock block. whenever I have the money I will build my engine and throw on an hta86
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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does anyone know if and/or where there is a graph or graphs showing the spool up difference as well as peak hp of the hta 35r w/a .63 A/R housing vs. the .82 A/R?
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo8ftw
I agree with you. I read the hta30r spools 3-500rpms sooner. I bought an hta30r because I am on stock block. I feel it will be the one of the best setups for stock block. whenever I have the money I will build my engine and throw on an hta86

IMO not the best setup with the stock block with all these stock appearing turbos lately...IMO the hta30r is in the past
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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^^^ 100%
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by YoungMoolah
IMO not the best setup with the stock block with all these stock appearing turbos lately...IMO the hta30r is in the past
I agree it is not the best. I feel it is one of the best routes to go. If you could throw on a red or an hta30r turbo kit and pay the same price lets say around 2000 bucks I wonder what everyone would go with.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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I, too, have been on the stock-framed turbo train/wagon since the FP Red came on the scene. I've seen the FP Red on E85 set at 30PSI put out around 490-525whp. This is/was with all the fixings. On pump, typically around 430-460whp or so. What I would like to see (and I'll search throughout previous threads) is how the FP Red stacks up on pump to the HTA3076r (equipped with the .63 housing) on pump with similar set ups. I just don't want to be that guy with a garage full of stock-frame parts sitting around that wouldn't be the case if I stepped up to the HTA3076 in the first place. I'm a fan of the HTA3076 but nowadays you have to really look at all of the details considering the EVO turbo variations out there. I have an E85 station less than three miles from my house so I'm seriously considering this as part of the equation. I've read about an EVO running the FP3065 equipped with 1600cc injectors, single fuel pump, set at 22PSI that ran a 10.95 @ 130MPH. I'll venture to guess that a set of 1250cc injectors on the HTA3076 set at low boost (21-24PSI) with one fuel pump on E85 would be quite fun. This leaves quite a bit left on the table if/when the time to step up comes around.

To go off topic to get a question answered...

What are the differences in spool (roughly) between the following turbos?
a) 3076
b) 3076r
c) HTA3076
d) 3065
e) 3065r

I'm interested in running one of these turbo kits with the .63 turbine housing. I use my car on the track/street and other than adding springs/retainers and rods, I'm not looking at doing very much else to the 2.0L stock bottom end. I'd be happy with 490-515whp with as much low-to-mid range grunt as possible.

Thanks fellahs.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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I Really see no need for 30R's.

Stock IX Turbo
Green if you must
RED
HTA35R

Pretty much the best choices to have.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
I Really see no need for 30R's.

Stock IX Turbo
Green if you must
BBK Full
RED
HTA35R

Pretty much the best choices to have.
On the contrary, 30's still have their place in the world. But to your list, the BBK Full has proven to outdo the Green time and time again. At any rate, my intentions are to hopefully bridge the gap between the FP Red and HTA3076 by going with the .63 housing with the potential of upgrading down the line easier as opposed to having a garage full of parts for sale at a discounted price.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_evo
On the contrary, 30's still have their place in the world. But to your list, the BBK Full has proven to outdo the Green time and time again. At any rate, my intentions are to hopefully bridge the gap between the FP Red and HTA3076 by going with the .63 housing with the potential of upgrading down the line easier as opposed to having a garage full of parts for sale at a discounted price.
You are splitting hairs at this point. Having the red gives you 30R type power but a massive torque curve by retaining the OEM twin scroll design that no single scroll 30R can match, not even close. After the Red the only real choice is a 35R, go for the lag and BIG power. I doubt any turbo could compete with the Red in terms of power band, price, driveability.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pure_evo
On the contrary, 30's still have their place in the world. But to your list, the BBK Full has proven to outdo the Green time and time again. At any rate, my intentions are to hopefully bridge the gap between the FP Red and HTA3076 by going with the .63 housing with the potential of upgrading down the line easier as opposed to having a garage full of parts for sale at a discounted price.

the BBK does better than the green because basically was designed from the green. It seems like a bigger better fp Green.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Impressive,so this turbo looks like it does put out a bit more torque then the 3065,eh? I want to see some numbers with a .63 AR!!
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
You are splitting hairs at this point. Having the red gives you 30R type power but a massive torque curve by retaining the OEM twin scroll design that no single scroll 30R can match, not even close. After the Red the only real choice is a 35R, go for the lag and BIG power. I doubt any turbo could compete with the Red in terms of power band, price, driveability.
Very interesting points. Not to venture too far off base as this thread is about the HTA3076, but it all depends on what purpose the FP Red is designed for. On 30PSI/E85, the FP Red has proven to be quite a monster, but what about its performance on 30PSI/pump 93? I don't have any dyno charts to compare at this time, but I'm assuming that it will not compare to the 35r on 30PSI/pump 93. Assuming that one wants to run E85 with the FP Red, the FP Red brand new with the required fixings runs roughly $2100 and after you throw in the double pump ($500), ported IM with 65mm TB (roughly $450), and ported intake manifold (roughly $200), you are sitting at roughly $3250 which costs more than the BR GT35r kit ($2995) which will probably out perform the FP Red/30PSI/E85 on just 30PSI/pump 93.
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