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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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the BR kit at 2995? no body buys those cast manifold kits anymore. try comparing it to there $4200 35r kit.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pure_evo
Very interesting points. Not to venture too far off base as this thread is about the HTA3076, but it all depends on what purpose the FP Red is designed for. On 30PSI/E85, the FP Red has proven to be quite a monster, but what about its performance on 30PSI/pump 93? I don't have any dyno charts to compare at this time, but I'm assuming that it will not compare to the 35r on 30PSI/pump 93. Assuming that one wants to run E85 with the FP Red, the FP Red brand new with the required fixings runs roughly $2100 and after you throw in the double pump ($500), ported IM with 65mm TB (roughly $450), and ported intake manifold (roughly $200), you are sitting at roughly $3250 which costs more than the BR GT35r kit ($2995) which will probably out perform the FP Red/30PSI/E85 on just 30PSI/pump 93.
30PSI and pump you would need a VERY efficient turbo. the 30R is getting hot at that PSI, which is why I would just upgrade to the 35R. Yeah you get some lag and then BAM, you lay hurting on some bikes.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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great back to back test!!!

Do you have a back to back test for HTA35r and normal 35r?
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FQ4OO
great back to back test!!!

Do you have a back to back test for HTA35r and normal 35r?
It shows a 300RPM faster spool-up from what I remember. Certainly the 35R to have.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
30PSI and pump you would need a VERY efficient turbo. the 30R is getting hot at that PSI, which is why I would just upgrade to the 35R. Yeah you get some lag and then BAM, you lay hurting on some bikes.
Thanks, man. I appreciate the feedback. I'm looking in the direction of the HTA35r with the 0.63 turbine housing from BR as we speak (type).

I'm sorry for the mini-thread jack.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pure_evo
Very interesting points. Not to venture too far off base as this thread is about the HTA3076, but it all depends on what purpose the FP Red is designed for. On 30PSI/E85, the FP Red has proven to be quite a monster, but what about its performance on 30PSI/pump 93? I don't have any dyno charts to compare at this time, but I'm assuming that it will not compare to the 35r on 30PSI/pump 93. Assuming that one wants to run E85 with the FP Red, the FP Red brand new with the required fixings runs roughly $2100 and after you throw in the double pump ($500), ported IM with 65mm TB (roughly $450), and ported intake manifold (roughly $200), you are sitting at roughly $3250 which costs more than the BR GT35r kit ($2995) which will probably out perform the FP Red/30PSI/E85 on just 30PSI/pump 93.
That makes no sense. If you "need" the double pumper, ported IM (which you listed twice) and 65mm TB why would you not need it for a larger turbo?
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
It shows a 300RPM faster spool-up from what I remember. Certainly the 35R to have.
any idea where i can find a dyno chart? Been searching but no luck.

Also is it true the HTA35R has less top end?
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FQ4OO
any idea where i can find a dyno chart? Been searching but no luck.

Also is it true the HTA35R has less top end?
NO, About the same peak as the standard 35R, just more mid-range and torque. Nothing mind blowing but certainly a noticeable improvement. Search under Buschur threads, he tested it for sure.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Boltz.
That makes no sense. If you "need" the double pumper, ported IM (which you listed twice) and 65mm TB why would you not need it for a larger turbo?
Yes. I did list the intake manifold twice. I meant the ported and jet coated exhaust manifold. The logic behind why one would not need these additional parts with a turbo that's able to flow more air (hence more power) is the fact that it would make more power with less boost compared to a smaller turbo that has to have all of the correct supporting mods to achieve anywhere close to those numbers of a larger turbo. For example, if one has a goal of 550whp and his two options are the FP Red and HTA35r, it would be economically cheaper to go the HTA35r route as opposed to the FP Red as it would require less parts needing to be upgraded.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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The HTA35r does not require less parts to be installed than a Red. The example you posted of the 550 whp goal would require EVERY mod on a Red to get there and nearly as many with the HTA35r. I would personally recommend the same supporting mods for both turbos. Supporting mods are what gets you reliable horsepower and a car that is more than a one hit wonder. Build the car right the first time and you will have a car that you don't hate driving and want to part out and sell off.
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The HTA35r does not require less parts to be installed than a Red. The example you posted of the 550 whp goal would require EVERY mod on a Red to get there and nearly as many with the HTA35r. I would personally recommend the same supporting mods for both turbos. Supporting mods are what gets you reliable horsepower and a car that is more than a one hit wonder. Build the car right the first time and you will have a car that you don't hate driving and want to part out and sell off.
Yes. I understand that completely and that's why I'm considering building around the HTA35r with 0.63 turbine housing. I have to admit though that the HTA3076r with the 0.63 turbine housing looks pretty impressive as well since I spend the majority of my time on the street with the 1-2 times a month trip to the drag strip. I'm a little gun shy about spending the additional $800 or so for the HTA treatment. What would be the spool characteristics between the 3076, 3076r, and the HTA3076r as they all have different price tags?
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