The baddest EVO 9 pump gas we've built.
. You will always be 100+HP ahead of me 
? We can make it four wide
vwjeff, what was it that made you decide to do a full build on this car, when it was well setup to begin with? You had a 35R(non HTA if I recall?), you had all the other bolt-ons, buschwacker trans, etc. Why not just build the motor and keep on trucking? Maybe do an HTA upgrade while your car was down? Instead of doing motor, trans, new turbo kit, etc etc etc...
Not knocking your build man, its bad ***, just curious as to your motivation!
Not knocking your build man, its bad ***, just curious as to your motivation!
Indy you wont be able to resist it
Who else beside maybe Buschur would let you drive there cars?
Tim the problem is Eric... he just to far away
But I am sure we can get all 4 of us together for some roll! Remember what David said before....
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...19&postcount=4
scheides... I upgraded everything cause the car wasnt gonna get much faster the way it sat... to an extent. Sure AEM, lighter brakes ect would have helped. But I just wanted more, I am a SPEED freak just like everyone else on here. I had an R1 that was getting me in ALOT of trouble with the law in 3 years. And if it wasnt that I was gonna kill myself on it.
I sold the bike to help fund my dream (no joke) a Buschur Built Race car I could drive everyday, and Team Buschur has pulled through for me with flying colors
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Next up will be an AMS CF roof, and lighter brakes, but I want BR's insight for the brakes
Who else beside maybe Buschur would let you drive there cars?Tim the problem is Eric... he just to far away
But I am sure we can get all 4 of us together for some roll! Remember what David said before....https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...19&postcount=4
scheides... I upgraded everything cause the car wasnt gonna get much faster the way it sat... to an extent. Sure AEM, lighter brakes ect would have helped. But I just wanted more, I am a SPEED freak just like everyone else on here. I had an R1 that was getting me in ALOT of trouble with the law in 3 years. And if it wasnt that I was gonna kill myself on it.
I sold the bike to help fund my dream (no joke) a Buschur Built Race car I could drive everyday, and Team Buschur has pulled through for me with flying colors
.Next up will be an AMS CF roof, and lighter brakes, but I want BR's insight for the brakes
Awesome Jeff!!!
But why did you only go with 65mm TB why not 3 inch TB?
OT:
BTW.Nick just called me today and said that my HTA88 is there now and just waiting for the back housing from FP!
But why did you only go with 65mm TB why not 3 inch TB?
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BTW.Nick just called me today and said that my HTA88 is there now and just waiting for the back housing from FP!
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I believe that DI or Trent at Buschurs can change out the flange for me down the road.
A 3in t-body and m3 cams may have put me over 600 on pump?
NO engine we build uses balance shafts, ever.
When we dyno the car on Friday on race gas the maximum RPM will be determined then. The problem with RPM and boost is the more you want of each the sooner everything wears out. Having thoughts of a 600 whp EVO that you run at 10,000 rpm everyday sure sounds cool, in reality it is an expensive dream.
I layed Tim G's dyno graph over Jeff's. I was absolutely 100% shocked at what I found. There really isn't a lot of difference in the curve. I then layed Eric N's dyno graph over them and found the same to be true. Eric's car had the best mid range but not a big difference. The curve's are suprisingly "close".
My mind is freaking out on me right now over this chart I am going to post. Here are some specifics on both turbos for boost response:
HTA35r HTA88
10 psi 4234 rpm 4547 rpm
15 psi 4473 rpm 4820 rpm
20 psi 4680 rpm 5039 rpm
25 psi 4852 rpm 5273 rpm
28 psi 5023 rpm 5379 rpm
It's amazing what a difference that extra 300-400 rpm in spool up make in the feel of the car on the dyno. To be honest, I thought this turbo was an absolute turd by what it felt like on the dyno. Now that I have compared the two charts I have to re-think that. It's really not far off from the HTA35r.
This car should easily trap over 135 mph on pump gas.
Here's the two sheets for comparison:
When we dyno the car on Friday on race gas the maximum RPM will be determined then. The problem with RPM and boost is the more you want of each the sooner everything wears out. Having thoughts of a 600 whp EVO that you run at 10,000 rpm everyday sure sounds cool, in reality it is an expensive dream.
I layed Tim G's dyno graph over Jeff's. I was absolutely 100% shocked at what I found. There really isn't a lot of difference in the curve. I then layed Eric N's dyno graph over them and found the same to be true. Eric's car had the best mid range but not a big difference. The curve's are suprisingly "close".
My mind is freaking out on me right now over this chart I am going to post. Here are some specifics on both turbos for boost response:
HTA35r HTA88
10 psi 4234 rpm 4547 rpm
15 psi 4473 rpm 4820 rpm
20 psi 4680 rpm 5039 rpm
25 psi 4852 rpm 5273 rpm
28 psi 5023 rpm 5379 rpm
It's amazing what a difference that extra 300-400 rpm in spool up make in the feel of the car on the dyno. To be honest, I thought this turbo was an absolute turd by what it felt like on the dyno. Now that I have compared the two charts I have to re-think that. It's really not far off from the HTA35r.
This car should easily trap over 135 mph on pump gas.
Here's the two sheets for comparison:
Wow Dave!!! I can't wait for mine now. I know it won't be the same power level with Jeff... but I know I will be contented with this than the HTA35R. I am assuming that on fridays test will be better/makes more power than the other test.(of other shop) Im not against with them but I am just more confident on you!
I wish you have a pics of side by side of HTA88 and HTA35R?
I wish you have a pics of side by side of HTA88 and HTA35R?
Last edited by evovin; Apr 24, 2008 at 06:47 AM.
