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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Thanks for your time.......first off, i commend you for answering all the questions you do, to me or anyone else for that matter......especially when the answer was given 100000 times before! This action validates your desire / goal for the sport. No *** kissing, etc....just the truth

i just wanted to know about air density, thats it.

your the one who said you felt you were being called a liar, i never even implied that.

i just asked for additional data.....

once again, its great that you post your findings. guess what, so do other people....

once i see you walk on water, my belief in 100% of what you say will remain the same....
I know you say you are just looking for data but, you kind of come across as being a bit abrasive.

Bottom line is Dave doesn't have to post any of his testing. He does so trying to help the community and most likely sell some stuff in the process. I know he doesn't test things to the extent a race team does or under the optimal conditions for each test but, he does what he can which is more than most.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Wow, that manifold is very nice looking on the inside. It must take a lot of time to perform all of that work. I don't even know how they could do it...
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Which intake manifold would work best on my 50 Trim turbo?

V0, V1, V2?


HTA35R?? of course V2
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur

Right now I have to say it has the best overall power of every intake I have tested. I would like to touch on that. When I did the original testing all the testing was done in a fairly small window of time with the air temps being as close as possible etc. All that testing was done with a stock throttle body except for the Hypertune that had a 3". The Hypertune won and I think gained 44 whp over stock. I then got curious and wanted to see what 3" throttle bodies would do to some of the others. I re-tested the HKS Kansai (was only able to use the 65 mm) and the Driven Innovations with the 3". I then found that the Driven with the 3" throttle body made the same power as the Hypertune with the 3". I was pleased with this because the DI intake was available and very affordable.

I kept the Driven Innovations on my car since then only switching to do further testing and then going back to the DI intake.

We now are in different weather conditions with different engine modifications etc. I was still using the DI intake through all my other testing and that is what was on my car when the Indy V2 went on.
Dont want to go off topic but when you re-tested the DI intake with the 3" TB, did it make the same power thru the midrange as the Hypertune or less? Going back and looking at the dyno charts from your original testing with the hypertune and 3" vs the DI stock TB, the hypertune had a better mid range.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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aby, please don't ask me any other questions. I supplied the data you asked for, all of it and then some and then I get a response back with rolling eyes and smart remarks. You are on ignore from me in the future. Thanks for your lack of contributions of any useful.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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jcevo1, I can't answer that off the top of my head. I'd have to pull up the dyno sheets on the computer and lay them over each other. I do believe though that the DI with the 3" made the best overall power after I changed the TB over to the 3" from stock, well up until the V2.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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justboosted 02 there is not one fabricated manifold that I have seen that was done 100% properly. They all look the same and some run pretty close. Some have had failures and some have not. The chances of a cast mainifold failing are remote at best, they take all the stock hardware and emissions hardware and most of all they are reliable, that is what I wanted for my daily driver. I have a fabricated manifold and a carbon one started, no one is going to pay what I want for the carbon one, I did it for myself and the fabricated one might see daylight at some point. To do a proper fabricated manifold would require more time to get what I would accept. Most if not all the available manifolds are very simple and have zero flow work done to verify each runner on every manifold produced. Every manifold produced at Wilson's gets the same treatment and care any top professional race team would get. I hope this answers your questions. Indy
thank you for your reply, i see where you are coming from and i applaud your for taking the road less traveled
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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nice test david.. as usual. Your effort and work put into testing these things is incredible. It always makes me laugh when people ask you to go back to check one more thing, or "how about this"... wtf.. It's a lot of work (not to mention your time is very expensive) to change parts and then retune just to get results.

I'm looking forward to see what this will do on small/stockish sized turbo cars... should be a very cool combination that will be very stealth.

Again, nice job. I'd buy you a Corona after our Open House, but there's concrete to be poured! LOL.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Indy actually started a carbon fiber intake for me a few months back. He then had an idea that he thought he could outperform most, if not all, the other intakes by simply modifying the stock intake. Seems as though he was correct.

We actually did not realize the amount of time and labor that would go into these as we thought originally, that it would be easy to offer these at a fairly low price. When the clock stopped though it was not as fast as originally thought.

Bottom line is this, don't like the price? Move on, buy something else. The DI intakes are $900, I have them ready to ship. Just stop crying about the pricing, if it's to much buy something else. Give us a break already.

EDIT, I didn't see Indy's response but this goes along with it.
who said i was complaining about the price? i have no problem paying 2k for a manifold that performs.

i dont appreciate the attitude, i was simply stating my thoughts.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Can you try and post up the HKS vs DI vs V2 vs Hypertune overlaped(with3" tb).

Would eb very interesting to see how they all go with the Hypertune 3" TB.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Do you see your name in my response you quoted justboosted02? I didn't think so as it wasn't directed just at you. It is directed to anyone who has made any comment about the pricing. If the shoe fits wear it. It's not an attitude, it's a fact that if anyone doesn't like the price then they have a lot of other options to go with. That is ME just "stating my thoughts".
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Do you see your name in my response you quoted justboosted02? I didn't think so as it wasn't directed just at you. It is directed to anyone who has made any comment about the pricing. If the shoe fits wear it. It's not an attitude, it's a fact that if anyone doesn't like the price then they have a lot of other options to go with. That is ME just "stating my thoughts".
well you mentioned indy's post just above yours which was directed to me.


so yes
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Jim & Wilson:

Congrats on producing a amazing intake manifold! The amount of man hours and the quality make it well worth the price IMO. In fact i am surprised that it is not more since everything is done by hand.

Just out of curiosity since Wilson tests all there products before it leaves there facility "i could be wrong but i thought it was mentioned earlier in the thread" Is there a chance that they would provide a data sheet with the intake manifold show flow rates of each runner? I know nobody else does this but i think it would be a good selling point for one and two its nice to have a data sheet for every part of the engine if you can get your hands on them.

David:
Once again thanks for all the testing and results that you have shared with the community. Sometimes i dont think believe people relize how much time both in labor and dyno time is spent to get these results.

Chris
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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You and many others are welcome, I enjoy doing the testing, I don't enjoy many of the comments that come along with it though.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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David let's be frank with regards to your testing and how the community responds to it. Yes, you breath life into this community with your products and testing. For that the community should be thankful. Generally speaking, the community is thankful. But in turn, without this community, you would be finding a paycheck in other places and you should offer the same respect to the community that you expect from the community.

I know when I have asked for data in the past it had nothing to do with you on a personal level. I would bet MOST others with similar questions are in the same mind set. Yet when you are questioned about your posts that are pretty obvious advertisements, you respond in a poor manner and you often make things personal.

Great work on the manifold though.
Between this manifold and a green, you could have a completely stock looking engine bay and with the right parts that aren't seen, break 500 HP with a nasty powerband. SLEEPER
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