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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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the red with bolt ons made 470 was on 100UL not 93 oct....it well be very impressive if it could do atleast 450 ona dynojet on 93....and you have to remember roberts car is not on the stock ecu neither
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Look at the entire power band too... I haven't kept up with th FP Red data but I'd say it has a much nicer usable power band. You can compare Red/c16 to 35R/pump :\

On a fully built car/c16 fp red might do what 500? On the same car the 35R HTA might do 600-650. The avg red HP would be say 380 and the avg 35R maybe 300? Granted the HTA makes better spoolup etc...

So with that in mind... If you're switching from a stock turbo the red might be easier to adjust to than a 35R. If you coming from a FP Green (which I am) the 35R HTA might be more appealing... I'm having a hard time letting go to my green though lol
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Shacochis06
the red with bolt ons made 470 was on 100UL not 93 oct....it well be very impressive if it could do atleast 450 ona dynojet on 93....and you have to remember roberts car is not on the stock ecu neither
agreed. i wonder how much of a roll the MOTEC played in the number. maybe it was more of the 100oct?!? maybe both?!? im personally hoping that it can
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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For me its 91 and if it could get over 400whp on that 91 in socal 109 degree heat using the stock ECU that would be fantastic
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by justchil
Look at the entire power band too... I haven't kept up with th FP Red data but I'd say it has a much nicer usable power band. You can compare Red/c16 to 35R/pump :\

On a fully built car/c16 fp red might do what 500? On the same car the 35R HTA might do 600-650. The avg red HP would be say 380 and the avg 35R maybe 300? Granted the HTA makes better spoolup etc...

So with that in mind... If you're switching from a stock turbo the red might be easier to adjust to than a 35R. If you coming from a FP Green (which I am) the 35R HTA might be more appealing... I'm having a hard time letting go to my green though lol

here is an all out car with a RED;

The car just layed down 530 whp and 463 ft lbs of torque. Boost was 38 psi, runs were done on VP Import fuel. Peak torque was from 4600 to 4900 rpm. Peak HP came in at 7350 rpm and still had 525 at 8,000 rpm.

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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So far we have a pretty mildly modded evo making 470whp on 26psi
and and all out one making 530 whp and 463 ft lbs of torque on 38psi.
hopefully when more units get sold and tuned WE can draw more comparisons
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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It had built everything and parts that nobody else can get as well from IndyEvo, but at least it gives you a glimpse of the limits of this turbo
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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The 470 was on a DJ and the 530/463 was on Buschur's Mustang...correct?
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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^^correct...the 530 is on a all out race car that runs strictly c16 buschur power....all this talk is gettin me excited to get mine on....atleast 350 on cbrd's dyno and ill be satisfied
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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Yeah, I'm sold, but all the talk here makes me feel better :-)
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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530 on any dyno is serious power especially buschurs. i wonder what that car wouldve made on pump?!?
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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from DB;

We took the car over to Switzer's Dynojet when we got done on our dyno today. The car probably has 50 dyno runs on it since we finished it.

On the Dynojet the car made 565 whp and 528 ft lbs of torque. We wanted an actual answer for all the times it would be asked.

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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DOH, SOLD!!! 500+/500+ on a daily driver that looks stock except of course an intake that can be CARB approved. A perfect California platform
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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This thread is so evom it's not even funny.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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Well its no socalevo thats for sure
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