Do any of you guys have part numbers or any way this would be something for the average person can do this with out spending a ton of money on fab work and keeping it working with ets ams ect... Piping and intercoolers I really would like to see part numbers though please thanks

 

part numbers? You do realize these are full custom setups.

Here's what you do on a budget
....
$260 -ebay T3 or T4 manifold
$50 -3" 90 degree mandrel bend stainless with 6" legs and 4 bolt exhaust flange
$30 - 1' of 2.5" stainless to match up to your current hotside intercooler pipping
$100 -ebay SSAC 40MM+ wastegate kit with discharge pipe
$300 - Holset HX40 from goldfarb etc with T3 16cm housing(or alot of people prefer the BEP .70 single scroll T3 housing...shorter tail section easier to build DP...if you choose this add another $200.)
$50 - holset rebuild kit if necessary
$100 - -4 pressure line from filter housing with .075-.085 restrictor
$15 - ebay oil return flange for holset and modify stock one with heater hose
$30 - silicone 90 degree reducer for compressor discharge and clamps



total $935(1135 with BEP housing)


Also borrow a chop saw or something to make straight and angled cuts, match up what you need and either weld it yourself or take it to someone who can, and chamfer the divider on TS housing if using a single scroll manifold of course.


Not a budget you say? considering the "entire" package costs around 900(1100ish BEP housing) dolllars and it flows 70 lb/min in the 6/7 blade 60MM inducer wheels... This turbo is comparative to the $2000+ FP Black setup in flow. Advantages of this setup are price, and indestructible bearings, turbo capable of 700 WHP. Disadvantages are setup in a single scroll .70 housing full boost will be in the high 4000 range on a 2L, loss of midrange torque and/or spool over TS variants..but remember this is a budget minded build.


If you want to build a TS holset variant..then obviously will have alot better street manners and spool, but TS T3 and T4 manifolds are expensive and take you out of that budget minded build. If you do decided on a TS setup, I recommend using either a 17 or 19CM T4 holset housings. 17CM= full boost in the neighborhood of low 4k range on 2L, 19CM=mid to high 4k range with better midrange torque than single scroll variants. It is unsure at this time if the 17cm housing will attain the full 70 lb/min, however the results are certainly promising, but not proven, at the very least it should be close. The 19CM I promise will attain the full 70 lb/min. Or you can have a custom machined garret turbine housing to fit on the HX40 which will help with turbine housing/downpipe clearances as they don't have a long tail section. for those that don't know what I am talking about. See pics here on the forum on downpipe clearances using the holset turbine housings.

 

Just purchased my manifold and my turbo. You can get the downpipe prefabbed from XS motorsports as well!

 

Awesome.

 

here is my contribution to the Holset thread.... I built this car for a friend..the engine and most of the setup is off my old evo 3....


-2g dsm head fully ported
-FP 2 cams
-86MM Mahle Pistons
-Scat rods
-eagle 4340 chrome moly crank
-JM fab topmount twinscroll VR4 manifold
-Holset HX40 7-blade pro wheel with custom T4 .84 twinscroll turbine housing
-treadstone vertical flow intercooler
-65MM overbored stock throttlebody
-OSG twinplate STR2C
-ECMlink V3 lite
-custom built 2-pass radiator
etc etc etc

all fab work done by yours truly...

 

That's funking nuts nice setup

 

thanks. Its got tons of time, money, and hard work in it.

Believe it or not the car reaches positive boost at 2700 RPM according to the logs. Should be 20+ psi around the mid to high 3000 range for sure. Hopefully soon we will see what she can do. Not bad for a diesel truck turbo that will outspool and outflow an FP red The HX40 pro wheel flows 69 lb/min FYI.

 

Nice work man, get some results/dyno sheets up.

 

im using a hx35/40 on my 2.4 and have a hx50 that im thinking about upgrading to, just looking for a smaller turbine housing this thing is huge (about the size of a basketball)

 

The problem with the 35/40 is the fact its still got the HX35 turbine wheel on it. The HX35 wheels is restrictive and will not support the airflow of the HX40 compressor wheel. I have seen exhaust/intake pressure logs, and dynos and I can tell you that the turbine wheel will not support over 60 lb/min. The HX40 compressor wheel is really a waste on that 35 turbine wheel.

HX50 is pretty big, and from my understanding doesn't come with appropriately sized exhaust housings for our cars. However there is the HX52 which generally comes with a 16cm exhaust housing. Which is perfect for a big power build. In this setup you can expect 80+ lb/min (I think the compressor map is 90 lb/min). On a 2.4L you can expect somewhere around low 5k range to 20+ PSI. Make no mistake this turbo will make in excess of 700+ WHP. I have seen it first hand.

 

quick update...

car is running 21 PSI. up top, ECMlink VD is showing 430 WHP/330 WTQ. All on pump gas, and running incredibly rich (10.6 AFR's), a conservative 0 knock tune. Its certainly a good start, and easily has got alot more in it. atleast 10-15 WHP more at its current boost level. However the ebay vertical flow intercooler and the clutch is starting to become the limiting factor in this build. Car should get 460-480 WHP range @ around 24 PSI I think before we call it quits for the time being.

I would really like to see what this thing can do at 30+ boost. Hopefully the owner will get some finances together for that.


15 May UPDATE: car is now at 26 psi. Just put down 480 WHP, 360 WTQ. All on 93 pump. Starting to get pretty quick at this point. In the near future a Sheet metal intake manifold is prolly in the works to push it over 500. We will see.

 

starting mine soon, i have the fullrace t3 copy a bullseye .70 housing and a hx40w off a VOLVO lol. here are some pics of the monster!

 

Random question.. I have a 1gen FP green flows 47lb(460hp on e85).. would putting a 8 blade w .63ar that flows 52lb be worth swapping. Is the 5lb a big difference? I'm hoping to make 525hp. ...

 

8 blade HX40 or HX35? The 8-blade HX40 flows 60-62 lb/min and the HX35 8-blade flows 52 lb/min. I am assuming the HX35? I don't think so if the HX35 is in a .55AR housing. The HX35s run a small turbine wheel and combined with a small turbine housing don't produce results enough to warrant a change on pump gas IMO. A t3 .70AR HX35 I think would be worth the change, if you can stand the lag. The one I would recommend getting is an 8-blade HX40 in a .55AR T3 housing for quick spool. This will spool slightly slower than the old school green but has been proven to make up to 500 WHP on pump gas and mid to high 500s on E85. Make no mistake the large turbine wheel in the small housing flows exceptionally well.

 

Check out the link in my thread. Best time to date is 9.73@146. Holset FTW!!!