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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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PM me so we can stop messing up the thread. Let me know what scaling definition you are using. I think you may be able to go lower than the .9 that you mentioned.
You can, the increment value is just set too high in the scaling definitions that have been provided.

Best bet is just to use uint8 and uint16 scaling where appropriate.
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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actually when I started using mrfred's advanced fuel control options my increment values are the same as travman's. Nothing below 0.9. What definitions need to be changed?

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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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taking off the pcv valve next to the oil cap helps after shutdown. Of course put it back on when you start. Seems to be a hassle though. I've tryed it several times with success. Starts right up in a couple of cranks. However if i've been boosting quite a bit, even with this method the car sputters to life. Starts the first time every time. Now the question is why???

Has anyone here installed a check valve/ one way vave on their fuel line to see if it helped? I was also thinking of doing this but not sure if I can get the right size to fit the oem line. So far I've found aeromotive's high flow check valve, but i don't think it will fit without the proper AN-6 thread.
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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check out AMS' site they have some of the fittings you're looking for. Also STM can get you setup. I looked into the checkvalve setup, but never got around to testing it.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
check out AMS' site they have some of the fittings you're looking for. Also STM can get you setup. I looked into the checkvalve setup, but never got around to testing it.
I saw the fittings on their website but couldn't see how they would work with the check valve, however...

I looked at their website and found this... http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...mance.com.html

would it work with one of these?
http://www.summitracing.com/search/B.../?autoview=sku

also, anyone try the pcv valve mod with good results?

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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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my car won't be running again until April, so you'll have to ask the other guys
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Yea I did

at one point my first pulse was set at 0 and my initial cranking ipw table was a 0.9, that is the lowest it would go. If you type in anything lower it stays at .9 or go to .0 which then the car will not fire.

That's Easy... "Alt key" + " [" to decrease value by 1%. I have had it down to .1.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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That's Easy... "Alt key" + " [" to decrease value by 1%. I have had it down to .1.
That does not work for me....... .9 is as low as i can go, frankly i don't think that .8 will do anything regardless so im not overly concerned.

I also put this table back to stock values and start-up didn't change one bit so it did nothing for me...
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ixbreaker
I saw the fittings on their website but couldn't see how they would work with the check valve, however...

I looked at their website and found this... http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...mance.com.html

would it work with one of these?
http://www.summitracing.com/search/B.../?autoview=sku

also, anyone try the pcv valve mod with good results?
I tried the pcv valve thing - it didn't start great but it did fire on the first set of cranks (still took long) but sat at like 500 rpms like it was extremely rich then after a few seconds the rpms picked up like it cleared out. The wideband did not show a rich condition - im going to try this some more with some back up logs and vids. While it didn't really help any it did seem to change how the car started compared to leaving the line connected the whole time..

We got a huge snow storm here and its been too cold, at this point im waiting till spring to work on this - i have been working almost a year on it so whats another month or 2? .

Yes that check valve and AMS looks like it should work for you both 6AN....it will add a few inches to the length but shouldn't cause a kink or anything, give it a shot.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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It is so weird, all the problems I had with warm starts just went away one day during my drive to Florida, and have not resurfaced (fingers crossed).
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddie
It is so weird, all the problems I had with warm starts just went away one day during my drive to Florida, and have not resurfaced (fingers crossed).
I have been waiting almost a year for this problem to miraculously go away - perhaps i need to drive to Florida?

Thankfully E85 season is about 2 months away for me and the starting is much more livable on E85 - not good, but just more livable.

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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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That does not work for me....... .9 is as low as i can go, frankly i don't think that .8 will do anything regardless so im not overly concerned.

I also put this table back to stock values and start-up didn't change one bit so it did nothing for me...

That's wierd not that <.9 may help, but I have had luck increasing the value way above what i want and then stepping back down by 1% to get the values I want. Another way is just to type ".X" in an any text application and cut/paste it in.

I guess I would consider driving to Florida lol.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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^ i think the .9 your talking about is the standard main cranking enrichment table. The one travman and I are having trouble with are part of the advanced fuel control tables provided by mrfred.

I don't think those tables are the issue. It must be temp related because the car starts up right away during a brief stop using the standard values.

The total cost of the check valve set up is gonna be almost 200 bucks.

Do you guys think if i just clamp the fuel line prior to starting it up will work? I was a little worried about damaging my fuel line because of the teeth on my vise grip. I mite need to wrap it with something softer, but do you think that will be enough force to prevent it from leaking back. If it did, it would be just like a check valve but for free lol.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ixbreaker
^ i think the .9 your talking about is the standard main cranking enrichment table. The one travman and I are having trouble with are part of the advanced fuel control tables provided by mrfred.

I don't think those tables are the issue. It must be temp related because the car starts up right away during a brief stop using the standard values.

The total cost of the check valve set up is gonna be almost 200 bucks.

Do you guys think if i just clamp the fuel line prior to starting it up will work? I was a little worried about damaging my fuel line because of the teeth on my vise grip. I mite need to wrap it with something softer, but do you think that will be enough force to prevent it from leaking back. If it did, it would be just like a check valve but for free lol.
Yes clamp the line - wrap it really good and you should be okay.....you may want to clamp the feed and return line and see what happens.

worth a shot imo.....i clamped my return before with no issues testing my FPR.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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i think i'm gonna clamp the fuel line underneath the back seat and see if that works because it's smaller and more flexible than the one under the hood. I'll report back to see if I get any results.
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