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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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whats the cost difference between 2.3 and 2.4 LR setups? it seems anyone considering 2.3 would love a 2.4 since it offers everything wanted out of a 2.3 without the negatives (except price i guess?).
+1... What all is needed for a LR2.4?
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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I would do a built 2.4L 4g64... if the motor was going to have a big turbo I would consider destroking it to 2.2L to gain high end
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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Now that the bigger shops and everyone else is figuring out how to perfect the 2.4 block, I think it will soon become the rebuild of choice. I know it will be for me!
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ssteve
+1... What all is needed for a LR2.4?
The only difference between a std 2.4 and a LR2.4 is the longer 6mm rod making it a LR2.4. It has a better r/s ratio than a std 2.4.

Originally Posted by DJ Brett B
I would do a built 2.4L 4g64... if the motor was going to have a big turbo I would consider destroking it to 2.2L to gain high end
You want to do a LR, no matter what you do. It is a much better combo and r.s ratio on the 2.2 and 2.4. The LR2.2 will rev to 9k and would be a perfect match for a 3582, 3586, or 6262

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
The LR2.2 will rev to 9k and would be a perfect match for a 3582, 3586, or 6262

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or a 4088r
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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or a 4088r
Agreed. However, I would push the limit on a build for a 4088. I would want all the displacement that I could while still being able to rev as high as possible. I would do this. Not sure if It is 100% possible but Aaron at ER would be a good person to ask that question to.

LR2.3 Would be a total custom build meaning $$$

4G63 MIVEC Head
4G64 Block 87mm
96mm Crank
160mm R&R Alunimun rod (I think that would max rod length possible, it may be a 159mm but not possitive)
10:1 Custom Wiesco HD Piston (a lot of custom work on the piston)

This would be a LR2.3 and should be capable of 8.5-9k You could talk to Aaron more about doing a LR2.3. He is the go to guy. I'm still learning all the custom build specs. I think that would be pretty nice with a TS 4088 though. It will give you a little more displacement than the LR2.2 but the Rev capability should remain relativly close to that of the LR2.2.

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Agreed. However, I would push the limit on a build for a 4088. I would want all the displacement that I could while still being able to rev as high as possible. I would do this. Not sure if It is 100% possible but Aaron at ER would be a good person to ask that question to.

LR2.3 Would be a total custom build meaning $$$

4G63 MIVEC Head
4G64 Block 87mm
96mm Crank
160mm R&R Alunimun rod (I think that would max rod length possible, it may be a 159mm but not possitive)
10:1 Custom Wiesco HD Piston (a lot of custom work on the piston)

This would be a LR2.3 and should be capable of 8.5-9k You could talk to Aaron more about doing a LR2.3. He is the go to guy. I'm still learning all the custom build specs. I think that would be pretty nice with a TS 4088 though. It will give you a little more displacement than the LR2.2 but the Rev capability should remain relativly close to that of the LR2.2.

Mikey
that sounds expensive! besides im thinking my turbine housing and cams will choke off top end a bit so ill be fine where i am. ill also be daily driving it in decent weather so no aluminum rods.
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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Nitrous, sorry I have been full of fail on the quote for you.

A 4088 full tap out should be somewhere like a 3586 or 6262 from what I have seen.

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Nitrous, sorry I have been full of fail on the quote for you.

A 4088 full tap out should be somewhere like a 3586 or 6262 from what I have seen.

Aaron
yeah, im not expecting to make more power, i am expecting more response and a more durable turbo though. i originally had a 35r that i was going to put on, but the atp 1.06 turbine housing looked like garbage and i found a guy with the 4088 looking to trade down.

im not in a massive rush for the quote, when you get to it, you get to it.

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Nitrous, sorry I have been full of fail on the quote for you.

A 4088 full tap out should be somewhere like a 3586 or 6262 from what I have seen.

Aaron
Aaron was the list I posted above about right for a LR2.3? I was not sure about what rod needed to be used in a combo like that... I think it would be way to much $$$ for may people to entertain anyway.

Mikey
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Aaron was the list I posted above about right for a LR2.3? I was not sure about what rod needed to be used in a combo like that... I think it would be way to much $$$ for may people to entertain anyway.

Mikey
if i had limitless funds, i would do things differently, but given the budget im working with i dont think im giving up much. *crosses fingers*
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Its 97 with a 159mm rod. As I recall its 2306 or something, or do it with a "drop in" at 86.5 and get 2280 the first time around. I need to see if the 97mm crank is still available or I will have to get them built.

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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Aaron, I'm almost positive K1 makes an off the shelf 97mm crank.

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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Actually the rod length I would do is 156 on that combo. I am pretty sure the crank was discontinued.


EDIT- only discontinued in anything other than the lightweight. Looking at the catalog I just noticed that the 4G94 uses a 153mm rod. Interesting.

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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Actually the rod length I would do is 156 on that combo. I am pretty sure the crank was discontinued.


EDIT- only discontinued in anything other than the lightweight. Looking at the catalog I just noticed that the 4G94 uses a 153mm rod. Interesting.
Doesn't a 4G94 has a 95mm crank or something like that?

Mikey
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