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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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This hta green might be good,except by the time you get it they already have a better version out. I go for the bbk,way cheaper,you get it in 3 days and i bet it has way faster spool.bbk full FTW!
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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stupid dyno numbers,i wanna see some trap speeds!
If your talking about potential. Then not much telling what the potential is of this turbo. I trapped 133.7 on just the standard GREEN which I think is pretty close to the highest potential of the GREEN
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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I would be interested to see about the surging aspect of it compared to the red. Seeing as though this HTA green can deliver good power like the red, it would be even sweeter if it lacked the surging issues that many are having with the red...it may even replace the red (speculation of course, time and results will tell).
I was able to get rid of the surging issues by installing the new 80mm comp. cover. I now hit and hold 30 instead of bouceing off it.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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forget what you guys know about both these turbos next month im gonna have a new dyno sheet up and its gonna change everything!
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by xRoguex
The bbk is only good for what? 390-400 max -- via pump.

verse 430+...


my car made 399 on pump on cbrd's mustand dyno, i can guarantee my car will make more then 430 on a dynojet. ( i know i dont have the graph so i have no clue what im talking about). i am going to the local dynojet soon to get a comparison done when i do i ll post the results.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky
You can't really make these knee jerk comparisons and conclude that one turbo is better than the other, when there are so many variables. These are different cars, with different mods, on different dynos, on different days, under different climatic conditions, very possibly at different altitudes, etc. No one said that the HTA Green is "better" than the BBK Full. So, take it easy.


i understand what the guy said and he also runs a bbk on his car. i am simply stating that this particular car didnt produce the results, especially on pump where the bbk is intended to run, to out perform it in any way. the car used has more work done to it then my own (head work, which is good for some extra power with the right cam) and as stated above, it will produce greater numbers then the green. it

i know its not the same dyno same day and there are not constant conditions but every comparison can not be made that way unfortunately, thats why people use correction factors and take info for what it is worth and not bible. this is exactly why i said i would like to see some numbers on a mustang dyno before i make complete judgement on the turbo.

sorry if i led anyone in the wrong direction just postiing my initial thoughts after seeing what the turbo did.

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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by atkins
my car made 399 on pump on cbrd's mustand dyno, i can guarantee my car will make more then 430 on a dynojet. ( i know i dont have the graph so i have no clue what im talking about). i am going to the local dynojet soon to get a comparison done when i do i ll post the results.

Isnt the 430 from thegreen on a mustang also?
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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I think that atkins is right and that the HTA Green car was dynoed on a Dynojet. I am not sure though.

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by xRoguex
The bbk is only good for what? 390-400 max -- via pump.

verse 430+...
PS, not to threadjack (because the title doesnt include BBK)

BUT, the bbk has made 445whp on a mustang dyno on pump gas.... at 28 psi...

we have made multiple 400whp BBK cars on pump 93 from 23.5-29psi...

they are all very capable turbos...

FP obviously had a reason to build a new variation... im sure when robert posts he will explain why they chose to change to another version.

cheers

cb
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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Chad, you are always welcome! At any rate, your BBK has been spotlighted for comparison's sake in this thread.

Was the 445 WHP pump gas car that you mention, an VIII or a IX? Also, do you happen to have the torque numbers on that particular car at hand? What camshafts was it running? And I assume that it was stock ECU, as well. Was this on your own Mustang, or another? Lastly, who tuned the car?

445 pump on a Mustang Dyno is impressive! Kudos!

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky
Chad, you are always welcome! At any rate, your BBK has been spotlighted for comparison's sake in this thread.

Was the 445 WHP pump gas car that you mention, an VIII or a IX? Also, do you happen to have the torque numbers on that particular car at hand? What camshafts was it running? And I assume that it was stock ECU, as well. Was this on your own Mustang, or another? Lastly, who tuned the car?

445 pump on a Mustang Dyno is impressive! Kudos!
I agree Sparky !! I want to know as well....If I knew I could be at ~440 whp with a nice fat power curve (from 3500 to 7500), I'd be very very happy....
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Yeah, cij, almost 450 Mustang, on 93 pump is really cool! Imagine what it would be capable of on 91 with your Meth injection. I am really curious about the torque curve on that particular car that Chad mentions.

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mt057
I was able to get rid of the surging issues by installing the new 80mm comp. cover. I now hit and hold 30 instead of bouceing off it.
how is the, ACT hdss clutch w/ prolight flywheel holding up with your setup?? i just got my ACT hdss clutch w/ prolight flywheel, just want to know how its going to hold up when i upgrade the turbo!
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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where can you buy the bbk full? and is it a stock appearing turbo like the FP's?
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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YES^^^

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