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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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I forgot that you already had the exhaust, intercooler, & IC pipes so dissregard those obviously. Since you already have an eBay IC I'd stick with that unless you see it as being an issue later.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Raceghost
Edit: TB shaft seals kit. I know someone on here sales them. I deleted your pm guy by mistake, sorry about that.
MilSpec sells the seals you're looking for. https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...available.html

Originally Posted by Raceghost
Bump for which sensor to use, a 3 bar, or a 4 bar? And what about the timing chain...?

Thanks in advance.
You only need to upgrade the MAP sensor if you are going to do EC controlled boost. If you are then I'd recomend the 3.% JDM sensor since you don't plan top run high boost anyway & thats what most tuners are used to dealing with. Either will work fine though.

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I read up on those on FP's site. THey say they are a replacement stock cam, mad by Comp cams...enlighten me please, for they have a great combo for cams and springs...
Like I said, I love em. If you are not going to Rev the motor high then you don't need springs with them. I beleive on the FP site they said you can rev to 8k with the stock valvetrain. Not sure about if you need springs with Kelfords but that would be the other cam I'd recomend.

Originally Posted by gsrboi80
Thats funny they made 30hp/tq on my VIII with tuning when I installed them 70k ago. So they are hardly crap for the 280 new I paid for them. The FP4R's and Kelfords are not even in the same league and way more aggressive

I bought mine for less than $300 too, but I ditched them for the FP4Rs & couldn't be happier. Take a look at the cam test link I posted & you will see what I mean. Keep in mind the OP is doing a 400whp build so agressive is probrobly what he wants.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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If your gonna be doing the cams... you might as well do it all up and do the timing too!
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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^^ timing what??? belt lol
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mtevoracer
Get the GSC s1 or s2's. They idle alot better than the kelford's. I got the kelford 272's and they are very choppy. And with the power you want to make they wouldn't do anything extra over a smaller cam. And don't buy anything from ebay for making power. You won't be happy. Go with an ETS intercooler they're cheap and good quality, or the Buschur deluxe IC with all their piping.
My Kelford 272's are smooth as butter; almost as clean as stock. You wont get a big HP gain from cams on stock turbo. You really need to get a better flowing turbo to get those upgraded cams to work for you. I would still go with the BBK Full for $1250 + fuel upgrade.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Raceghost
BBK Full swap or rebuild $1250
Welbro Fuel Pump $80
FIC Injectors $400 1250's on e-85, 1050's on pump
Total $1730

Where can I get a BBK for that price? Everywhere I look, its like 1700. I have an EVO8, so CBRD can't even touch it. I would need to buy a 9 turbo, then ship it to them to do that, so the price just went up. Unless you know where one is?

Thanks again.
I know the local shop I go to sent in a 9 turbo they had laying around to get it rebuilt. Then he sold it with the exchange of the 8/9 turbo for $1250. Check you local shop's, local forum, and even private seller's here on evom. Here is a link to a local guy selling a turbo in my area. He is sponsored by AMS for hill climb so he should let it go for next to nothing. Hope this helps!

http://www.coloradoevo.com/forums/sh...6675#post76675

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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dambikeracer
My Kelford 272's are smooth as butter; almost as clean as stock. You wont get a big HP gain from cams on stock turbo. You really need to get a better flowing turbo to get those upgraded cams to work for you. I would still go with the BBK Full for $1250 + fuel upgrade.
i putting in my kelford 272 cam's and springs in, i'm sill on stock ix turbo will i get any gains? maybe 10whp or 15whp

my mods- tbe, intake, intercooler kit, 255 fuel pump, mbc, exhaust manifold, 02 housing, 272 cams w/springs, fluidampr

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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by erald01
everyone has their opinion about cams but BC cams are very reliable and make just as good power as the HKS and for the half of the price, so i would go with BC cams...had them on my previous dsm's and loved them. AEM boost controller/reader is a very good upgrade, a little on the expensive side but very accurate. I had it on my gt37r set up on my dsm and loved it, and trust me i have tried plenty of other boost controllers such as hks,greddy and blitz, so AEM would def be my choice..
AMS's test proved that the BC cams don't make anywhere near the same power as the HKS cams and need to be degreed in order to make any power which requires you to add a couple hundred bucks for cam gears along with the labor to have them degreed correctly.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Sorry everyone. Runnin a little behind on the transaction that is funding this whole thing(selling my avatar). Those of you that PM'd me, some of you have answers, and I am trying to get a word to everyone. WIll be in touch soon, thanks again for all the info.
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