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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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I know you're frustrated, but when you deal with performance upgrades, everyone gets an unfair dose of that now and then. Aggravation is part of the deal.

If you can physically move the shifter unnaturally, you have a problem in the shifter mechanism itself at the very least. You will have to track this down, starting with the shifter itself. If the shifter mechanism is loose, you darn sure can count on shifting issues.

As for installation errors, I've been dealing with this sort of thing for 25 years, and if I ever find someone who is immune to human error, I'll let you know. Meanwhile, I'd bet that is exactly what you have at the present. Don't be so quick to rule that out by default.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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i seen damage first hand
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:36 AM
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People are letting frustration override reason...
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Ted, as always you provide a calm and rational perspective and I greatky appreciate it (I am sure that others do as well).

Daisa, I understand your frustration but remember that a Master can in fact weaken over time as a result of heat and use. Just because it functioned properly with the stock assembly or even another system doesn't mean that it is operating now. As for the shifter play, there really isn't any way for this to be affected by the clutch and if the shifter is lose and moving more than it should this would affect the ability to select a gear cleanly. At this point I suggest two things: 1) check out the shifter assembly and insure that it is installed properly. 2) Assuming that the pedal effort is consistent and that you aren't seeing any issues that evidence air in the system replace the master with another OE unit. Once you do this let us know what you find. As always I am more than happy to assist you and you can call me at any time; 800-828-4379 x.109. Thanks,
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Not to jump on a bandwagon, but I've recently started having problems with mine as well.. After going to the track on the 2nd its been slipping pretty regularly in 3rd, 4th, and 5th. I don't even have to get to full boost in 5th for it to let go.

Suffice to say, this is extremely frustrating. I have not pulled mine out yet, so I can't say what the issue might be either way, but I feel your pain on having to deal with it. I do have a work shop (its fairly cramped though, I've got a lotta crap haha), but I don't really have a spare vehicle or the time to deal with the issue. I had mine installed by my mechanic, I was there while he did it, I don't recall any funny angles or excessive beating/hanging/shaking other than it was a bit difficult to slide in, such that we took everything back apart to ensure proper alignment (and check for any other inconsistencies).

Doubly irritating because the effort easy, the car drives more or less like stock. Its wierd, it won't slip down low, it'll spin tires in 2nd, and then it just lets go. Real violent too.. feels like wheelhop when it starts slipping.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 08:24 AM
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I dont understand. If Ryu or other people have said that there SPEC's either wouldnt go into gear or spontaneously exploded, why would you still buy there super torque holding blue paperweight. Exedy has been proven. Start slipping a twin. Go to a tripple. Same feel but DD effort is increased. Also at some point SPEC needs to go over go over there building process and make a install guide if it is just that. Just my $3.50.

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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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exedy + pop out. Not messing with that.

Trivial things like that really dampen my enthusiasm for a product. Not to say that I'm riding high and dry right now.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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linuxman - is it catching high? You may need to adjust the pedal to make sure it is fully disengaging.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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What do you mean 'catching high' ? We adjusted it out a couple of times after the install to get things where it would shift, and I've moved it up a little bit further still since then, but this is a recent thing. Clutch has somewhere between 6 and 7k on it (man I've been on the road a lot since may)
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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i think you may want to adjust it in, not out.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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Linux, I hate to hear that you are having an issue...I beleive you and have have spoken before at the IFO event in Montgomery. Upon initially reading your post I would suggest checking pedal adjustment as well because if the hydraulics are exerting pressure on the bearing, to the point that it is riding the diaphragm fingers then the clutch will be operating with reduced clamp (sitting partially released). Of course, you are close to us, perhaps we can arrange to have you bring the car by for examination. Give me a call at we can talk about this further. Thanks!
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SPEC-01
Linux, I hate to hear that you are having an issue...I beleive you and have have spoken before at the IFO event in Montgomery. Upon initially reading your post I would suggest checking pedal adjustment as well because if the hydraulics are exerting pressure on the bearing, to the point that it is riding the diaphragm fingers then the clutch will be operating with reduced clamp (sitting partially released). Of course, you are close to us, perhaps we can arrange to have you bring the car by for examination. Give me a call at we can talk about this further. Thanks!
I spoke with Gary yesterday, if you guys want to take a look at the car, thats fine, I don't know when I'll get a chance to bring it up there, but I can feel the TOB hitting the ears after application of the clutch pedal, and easing up the vibration goes away, so I don't think its constantly applying pressure, but I'll look. I have a couple of things that Gary recommended I check, and I'll probably try and do that this afternoon.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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gave everything a really fast once-over at lunch, obviously this did not leave me enough time to completely inspect everything, but a quick glance in the inspection hole in the bottom of the trans reveals black dust and nothing else, aside from my continuously oozing oil return, there are no oil leaks on the underside of the car, and looking at the pp and plug from the bottom of the transmission there appears to be no sign of oil there as well. I'll know for sure when I yank the inspection plate off the bell housing. I might swap in my spare MC and replace the rubber line with the braided SS line that came with the parts car, see if that makes any difference, but I don't think its applying any pressure with my foot off the pedal.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Ok, so I ran most of the gamut this afternoon, didn't get to look at everything because I discovered that someone bottomed the car out in the past ~ two weeks and ****ed up my lower intercooler piping. stupid transverse mounted engines. Anyway, I digress..

Replaced the MC and upper clutch line with my spare MC and a ss line (thats kind of a trick in and of itself, bit of a tight spot back there), pulled the inspection plate, checked for oil leaks in generall.. found a new one (damnit).. seems the t-case is oozing from somewhere. Nothing wierd on or behind the inspection plate aside from what can only be described as clutch material and other 'transmission type' dust.

bled the HELL out of it again, the fluid did look kinda ratty, esp for being only four months old, moved the pedal down per other's recommendations...

And.... drum roll please:

it drives the same. zero change in pedal feel (aside from being a bit lower to start with, so my NLTS is probably all jacked up again), no change in shift quality, and I didn't get to roll off in it to see what was going on in boost, however with no noticeable differences elsewhere, I doubt I'm going to see any changes there either.

So much for the easy stuff eh?
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 05:46 AM
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I am trying to work out planning to better provide you with a timeframe of when we can examine the car. Of course SEMA is fast approaching so your visit will have to come after we return. I will let you know more as soon as I can nail down a date. As always you are welcome to call me with any questions you may have. Thanks,
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