You will have to ask sparktech about that question, i have no idea.

 

CHINA... PnP connectors used in our kits are made in Japan. The Chinese connectors are NOT the same grade (will not stand up to the heat) like the OEM Japanese connectors. The original connectors are designed for the heat.

What else in your kit is made in China?..maybe now we know how you are able to offer at this pricing

 

excellent logic!!!

 

This is my LAST post on this subject.

We use GOLD tipped terminal connectors on our systems. These are more expensive and conduct electrical current more efficiently that regular tin, we also use a Mil-spec heat sleeve that's rated to over 400deg F., not plastic wire loom that will distort and melt over time.

Thanks to all our customers that appreciate and recognize the Quality and Performance that is synonymous with the Spark Tech Brand.

 

there's not a HUGE difference in price at all. less than $200. look at the materials, the R&D and craftsmanship. that's like asking why Jordans cost more than basketball shoes from Kmart. if you use higher quality, more expensive materials, the finish product will be more expensive. also, if you're the company that spends all the time/money developing a product. it's easy to make a cheaper version by copying what someone else did and by using cheaper parts.

 

Uhh. $30k new, maybe. I see them for sale for low teens. I bought mine for low 20s with a couple thousand in mods on it. Guess what? I have two VR4 spyders ($65k MSRP) and a VR4 coupe ($52k MSRP) too. And guess what else? I'm not rich. I live in West freakin Virginia. That's right, redneck town. The cost of the car should have no relation to the cost of the mods. Your argument is quite flawed.

EDIT: Point of the pricing on the other cars is to make a point that the cost is irrelevant... I paid less for all 3 of those cars TOGETHER, used, than 1 of them cost new.

1) I don't want to cover a COP with a spark plug cover. It makes changing plugs that much harder. It's as much a convenience mod for me as it is a performance mod, since I'm only on stock turbo and have other cars to maintain as well.

2) I don't show my car. I don't need something "fancy" looking that's under the hood that rarely or ever gets seen. If something performs as well (or better) than something twice as expensive, that's what I'll take. Beyond that, I have no issues with the appearance of it. Care to point out some of the things you don't like?

3) I'm not talking out of my ****. I've had one of Tallen's COPs for about half a year and it has helped even out my idle and seems to have helped some misfire issues I had under boost. That was without a retune, just a plug and play.

Now, on the contrary, do you have some sort of experience with Tallen's kit to give you grounds to bash it?

 

i'm just sayin. for every high hp EVO they bring in, i can find 10 more running the spark tech setup. difference is, the spark tech units have been out there for a while running and proving reliability and durability. i only like buying things ONCE. if i'm gonna do it, do it right. not slapped together chinese parts with an Autozone plastic cover on the wires that he even ADMITS are vulnerable to heat damage on his website.

 

The coils say Denso buddy. I really don't make much on the New kits (thankfully I have a good friend in the parts business at Toyota, and once I convert to Prius coils on my new coming kits I will make a tad more), but the Used ones provide me a decent return and the customer gets an awesome value. I have a full time job that pays me well. I just do this for a hobby/side money. It makes me happy to help people and give a good general value and I always stand by what I make. If EvoM does not wish me here, I will gladly take my money back and be on my way so I can stick to eBay.

As far as the connectors, I was not able to get any from Japan due to order sizes, but found a nice supplier in China. Wish I could have gone the USA route but that is WAY out of my small budget. I commend what you do, it really is great! Your CNC work is top notch, I hope to get mine moving so I can move onto other ideas I have. I looked into a higher priced contact, but Mitsu doesn't bother using gold plated contacts so I did not see much advantage.

 

Alright, that might be what you're saying now, but that's not what you SAID. Look at Sparktech's sig and see if having high HP Evo's running your product successfully is good advertising or not; whether you are stock or otherwise.

 

There was a post that got deleted very fast a while ago, one of them member here said that sparktech stole his idea on his cop. Just because matt builds cop does not mean he stole his idea from sparktech, they are not the first ones who build the cop to take any credit for. Maybe to you $200 is nothing but these days the way the economy is going $200 is a lot of money, specially when something does the same job as something more expansive does.

 

your first thing about the price is irrelevant. i bought my car new. almost 40k after tt&l. if the price doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you. nobody with an EVO is POOR though. that's retarded.

as for your "points." point #1 is retarded because if you don't want to cover it, you don't HAVE TO. but IF you want to, it would be nice to be able to. especially for people like me that don't change my plugs but every 60,000 miles. it's not something i need to do often. and even if i did, seriously? a cover is 4 freaking bolts and you're crying about taking it off? lol okay man

number 2 the part has nothing to do with SHOW. it has everything to do with QUALITY and DURABILITY. Spark Tech's part is MADE BETTER. It's put together better, and made with much higher quality materials, bottom line. you obviously don't understand what that means if you think high quality parts are only for show. it's the same reason i don't buy Rota's. yeah i could get wheels that LOOK like volks, but they won't be as durable or as light, or as strong. so that would defeat the whole purpose of buying aftermarket wheels in the first place.

as for number 3, yes you are talking out of your ***. as for the bashing, i'm not bashing his product. you guys are just getting sandy vaginas because i gave legitimate reasons as to why i selected one product over another and you feel some homoerotic automotive loyalty to this dude because he's making it easy for you "poor EVO owners to afford mods in this economy"

stfu

 

for one, i never said he stole anything. for two, everything is a copy of something. for 3, what is a lot of money for you, might not be for someone else. if you can't afford spark tech, get tallen. i'm not stopping you or bashing for it. I JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT. is that okay? is it okay for me to mod my car the way i want to? is it alright for me to want a HIGHER QUALITY PRODUCT built with HIGHER QUALITY PARTS? or is that just wrong? am i a bad guy for having a good job in a bad economy?

oh, and i also DON'T care about any of that stuff. i bought spark tech because I WANTED THE BEST. if you don't want the best, then don't buy it. i'm not taking your right to buy a cheaper product. I just don't want it because the build quality IS NOT AS GOOD. you can't argue that. the build materials ARE NOT AS GOOD. there's no denying that either. get off his sack, and face the facts. since when did vendors get to have fanbois?

 

Ok, lets stop the arguing. What was said has been. I actually do appreciate ODUBs comments, it gives me something to strive toward. If you think producing something is easy, THINK AGAIN. There are about a million things to address that I would never even think of before. BTW my wire loom is high temp, not the cheap stuff!

 

How can you say anything about sparktech when you dont have one or never used one? when i pay huge amount of money for something, i dont expect to be very very fragile do i? I had problems with my sparktech so its not like it never breaks or made out of the best parts in the world, its a nice system but it has its lil problem too.

 

But you're still in Sparktech's sig....

ODUB, if someone trades their ST COP in for the "knockoff", you should pay attention, and maybe ask for some details?