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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
The car is running. I am stumbling through the process of learning it. Tonight I found the CD and started doing some reading, proved to be helpful I think. Crispeed was very busy today tuning a car, so it was tough to get some answers on a few problems. I believe after looking through the instructional CD though I have them failry sorted out.
I will say one thing. Sitting still and just rev'ing the engine, the car has NEVER rev'd this quickly and freely, it's rediculous. Not sure why it is so responsive now but whatever the reason it is a welcome, noticable difference.
I have to tell myself I have thousands of hours in the AEM EMS, switching over to this is not going to make me a Pro at it in 10 hours of working with it.
I was on the dyno from 3-11pm. I have a headache from breathing 93, Q16 and E85!

I'm working on a patch harness that will take advantage of all the outputs and inputs so in that way you don't have to wire anything. The present patch was setup to control just the basic stock evo so when the need arrives for extra output/inputs you have to hardwire stuff.
Anyway glad to see you're getting a handle on it. Once you figure everything out it will be easy just like any other system.
Supposedly the universal pro version of the ecu is going to be released at SEMA this year that got knock control, dual electronic throttle control, twin air mafs use etc.

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Is haltech Mivec friendly ?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by N33d4sp33d
Is haltech Mivec friendly ?
The sport 2000 works with Mivec.. No problem at all..

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Mike I seriously don't mind if you talk about it here, please go ahead and address any questions you have answers to, it's NO problem.

Crcain, I am working on monitoring the knock sensor with the Haltech. I had to order some pins and such from Crispeed today to run a few more wires. The AEM is definetely easier to install, every single pin/wire is there, any moron can do it. This requires a little more work.

The car is running. I am stumbling through the process of learning it. Tonight I found the CD and started doing some reading, proved to be helpful I think. Crispeed was very busy today tuning a car, so it was tough to get some answers on a few problems. I believe after looking through the instructional CD though I have them failry sorted out.

Tomorrow, I just about have to dyno the car. Tonight it rained, no track, thank goodness as we were not ready. Monday we plan to race, so I have to have the car done.

I will say one thing. Sitting still and just rev'ing the engine, the car has NEVER rev'd this quickly and freely, it's rediculous. Not sure why it is so responsive now but whatever the reason it is a welcome, noticable difference.

I have to tell myself I have thousands of hours in the AEM EMS, switching over to this is not going to make me a Pro at it in 10 hours of working with it.
I think its a smart move to learn something else, in the end you will know both systems and can tune that many more cars that show up with the Haltech. Its just a new learning curve, but you just went through that with the stock ECU. Good luck with the Bad Bish!
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Thanks for all the help crispeed, I appreciate it very much.

Yes, eventually I should get up to speed on the Haltech and then it's another avenue to pursue tuning with.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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I think its awesome trying new options! I have been very hesitant to put an AEM on my Evo (past experiences with Honda's..). Ending up going with HKS F-con Vpro so we'll see how that works.

Good luck and lets see some 8's!
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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OK here is some of what I have experienced the last few days.

First I got the Haltech from Mike quickly, like the next day. Crispeed took the time to do some of the set up in the software for me and sent me Haltech's base map and a map he built for me, for the car.

When I got the Haltech it came with the patch harness, Crispeed sent me a note how he set up some of the functions I needed.

I HATE wiring. In order to control the secondary fuel pump, water pump, fan and wideband I needed to take some pins out of the factory ECU connector and attach them to the Haltech harness. Not a big deal, I got through it and probably learned a thing or two.

I then decided I wanted to monitor another pressure sensor I use for oil/fuel pressure/turbo back pressure from time-to-time. I also wanted to attempt to monitor the factory knock sensor. Today I figured those out on my own and Crispeed overnighted me the pins/wiring I needed to do it.

I read through the CD/manual that came with the Haltech last night. I had been trying to get the two step launch control to work and could not. After reading the manual I figured out that regardless of the Haltech being set up for vehicle speed to launch it also needed a clutch reference, today I wired that.............twice. First time it went to the wrong connector by mistake. 2nd time it still didn't work. Crispeed tried his best to help me but we met a dead end. A phone call to Haltech put me in contact with their tech who was knowledgable and very quick to help. I sent him my calibration file and he bench tested it, sure enough, no two step. He then found a "glitch" that would not allow it to work. He told me he didn't know if it was intentional or an actual "glitch". I made a comment that we both got a good laugh out of

Back to the parking lot for the 50th attempt and then it happened. The two step worked this time, first I tested it at just 3500 rpm where I had it set for testing. Then I set the RPM limit at 6800 where we had been launching with the AEM at. Well the sound the car made and what I experienced next were, uh..........hmmmm........I'm not sure how to attempt to describe it. My right foot came off the throttle very quickly. I decided it was time to try to log the car, for some reason I could not pull the log out of the computer. So I decided to watch the rpm and boost on the screen and attempt the two step again. That's when it happened, that same thing that happened the time before, the uh...............hmmmmmmmmmm, not sure how to describe it thing! ****!!!!!!!!!!!!! 32 psi of boost in a split second and instant RPM. I don't know what to say, the two step is smooth as glass, not the thump thump thump thump type launch control I have been use to hearing. This was much different. This is high end motorsports sounding launch control, this is some serious **** that is going to take some working with! haha I got chicken and as soon as I put my foot to the floor saw 30+psi and instantly lifted back off the throttle.

I went back and compared the logs from the shootout when the car ran 9.1, on the two step at 6800 rpm the car was leaving the line at 7.9 psi of boost, ran 1.4x sixty foot times.

I don't know what would happen if the clutch was released at 30+ psi in an EVO but to be honest, I don't want to find out either!

So, right now I have a lot of it figured out, the car starts quickly but it can use more work. The idle is good but can use more work. I have done nothing over about 1500 rpm, I wanted all the sensors to work, launch control, rev limiter etc. to work before doing the rest.

I ran out of time tonight, no dyno again. We had to load the car up to leave in the morning for the Mod Event in Illinios. Plans were to run Monday, now I'm not so sure. I am taking extra fuel with me to the event and might get the ***** up to take it out for street tuning with Jarrod. I also have Monday during the day to do the tuning on the dyno.

I have very high hopes based on the ease of starting, the rediculously fast reving and the launch control. Based on just what I heard today on the launch control, the car should run 7.50's! haha
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Haltech australia tech support is awsome. I used to love dealing with them.

I had a supra show up today with a sport 2000 Haltech ecu, seems alot of people are going haltech.

Good luck sounds good thus far.

Sean

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean@Iveytune
Haltech australia tech support is awsome. I used to love dealing with them.

I had a supra show up today with a sport 2000 Haltech ecu, seems alot of people are going haltech.

Good luck sounds good thus far.

Sean
I Dont know which would be harder for dave to understand..

Haltech Australia

or

Haltech Trinidad..


Mike
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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dave could you please continue to update us on the stock knock control sensor monitoring and how it is working out.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
I Dont know which would be harder for dave to understand..

Haltech Australia

or

Haltech Trinidad..


Mike



Actually it was Haltech USA and Haltech Florida and what you did not know it was also Haltech Dominican Republic!

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Actually it was Haltech USA and Haltech Florida and what you did not know it was also Haltech Dominican Republic!
Ha! I prefer Haltech Latin America...
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Claudio_Haltech
Ha! I prefer Haltech Latin America...
Shhhhhhh!
You're supposed to be my secret, silent connection with inside information!

Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I made a comment that we both got a good laugh out of
AhhhhEhhhhM!

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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How do you control boost on the anti lag with the Haltech?
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony1
How do you control boost on the anti lag with the Haltech?
How do they do it on motec??
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