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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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Dyno'd the car yesterday with the AEM on it, 710 whp at 40.09 psi, biggest number ever on the small cams. I was not happy with how the car was "acting" so I took it back off the dyno and we put the Haltech on it. I have about 5-6 hours in the base map so far, learning how to move around the software, transfering data from AEM to Haltech etc. Plan to put it back on the dyno with the Haltech today or tomorrow.

Big thanks to Crispeed and Mike at AWDMotorsports for sending the Haltech and setting it up. The car fired instantly and ran, no problems. The time I have put in it now are changing sensor calibrations/injectors/rev limits/fuel and timing tables etc.
So now BR is able to tune the Haltech...
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Clipse3GT
So now BR is able to tune the Haltech...
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Not quite yet, let me get some results on my car first.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
I dont understand why you REFUSE to just start a new thread.. We dont need ongoing discussion about Haltech for a X in Davids thread.. START A NEW THREAD and ill be glad to go in and discuss whatever you like along with crispeed..

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Why is it that when I ask a question about Haltech, you respond with capslock like your furious? My lord. I was using the X issue as an example. I can change the example to suit Dave's car if you like since your being such a **** about thread relevance. Here you go...

How would the Haltech respond to the hobbs switch failing on the second pump in a BR double pumper?

Is that better now?

Good luck with the new ECU Dave! Keep us in the loop on how you get along with it.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Hey Dave I meant to ask, are you switching to det cans now or does the Haltech log the knock sensor voltage similar to what you watch on the AEM?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by crcain
Why is it that when I ask a question about Haltech, you respond with capslock like your furious? My lord. I was using the X issue as an example. I can change the example to suit Dave's car if you like since your being such a **** about thread relevance. Here you go...

How would the Haltech respond to the hobbs switch failing on the second pump in a BR double pumper?

Is that better now?

Good luck with the new ECU Dave! Keep us in the loop on how you get along with it.
Its not cause its Haltech its cause you are cluttering up his whole thread with off topic questions... why is it you cannot create your own thread?? are you just looking to get the exposure of your questions because Daves threads get 1000's of hits???

Do you want me to create the thread for you with your off topic questions???

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by crcain
Why is it that when I ask a question about Haltech, you respond with capslock like your furious? My lord. I was using the X issue as an example. I can change the example to suit Dave's car if you like since your being such a **** about thread relevance. Here you go...

How would the Haltech respond to the hobbs switch failing on the second pump in a BR double pumper?

Is that better now?

Good luck with the new ECU Dave! Keep us in the loop on how you get along with it.
As far as the hobbs switch failing we have never experienced that..

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
I dont understand why you REFUSE to just start a new thread.. We dont need ongoing discussion about Haltech for a X in Davids thread.. START A NEW THREAD and ill be glad to go in and discuss whatever you like along with crispeed..

Mike

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crcain, mike etc., it's not cluttering the thread, feel free to discuss it here, it's a good topic. This thread is just an update on what's going on so I do not have any problems with anything be posted in here. No worries.
I think ccrain is right mike@awd, Dave said it's fine and it's his thread. You don't have dreams of being a mod, do ya???
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Its not cause its Haltech its cause you are cluttering up his whole thread with off topic questions... why is it you cannot create your own thread?? are you just looking to get the exposure of your questions because Daves threads get 1000's of hits???

Do you want me to create the thread for you with your off topic questions???

Mike
Let's not argue anymore. I'll try not to disagree with your posts and hopefully all will be well.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MOREPSiTEHBETT4
I think ccrain is right mike@awd, Dave said it's fine and it's his thread. You don't have dreams of being a mod, do ya???
Trust me I dont want be a mod.. Carry on.. Im just not going to respond to Crcain..

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Mike I seriously don't mind if you talk about it here, please go ahead and address any questions you have answers to, it's NO problem.

Crcain, I am working on monitoring the knock sensor with the Haltech. I had to order some pins and such from Crispeed today to run a few more wires. The AEM is definetely easier to install, every single pin/wire is there, any moron can do it. This requires a little more work.

The car is running. I am stumbling through the process of learning it. Tonight I found the CD and started doing some reading, proved to be helpful I think. Crispeed was very busy today tuning a car, so it was tough to get some answers on a few problems. I believe after looking through the instructional CD though I have them failry sorted out.

Tomorrow, I just about have to dyno the car. Tonight it rained, no track, thank goodness as we were not ready. Monday we plan to race, so I have to have the car done.

I will say one thing. Sitting still and just rev'ing the engine, the car has NEVER rev'd this quickly and freely, it's rediculous. Not sure why it is so responsive now but whatever the reason it is a welcome, noticable difference.

I have to tell myself I have thousands of hours in the AEM EMS, switching over to this is not going to make me a Pro at it in 10 hours of working with it.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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You will soon be a excellent tuner on the unit Dave. I may plan on getting one soon if all goes well. We just finished the prep of my RS for this upcoming race. Street AWD/Overall Championship victory smells tasty. Buschur Power goes a long way!!

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Mike I seriously don't mind if you talk about it here, please go ahead and address any questions you have answers to, it's NO problem.

Crcain, I am working on monitoring the knock sensor with the Haltech. I had to order some pins and such from Crispeed today to run a few more wires. The AEM is definetely easier to install, every single pin/wire is there, any moron can do it. This requires a little more work.

The car is running. I am stumbling through the process of learning it. Tonight I found the CD and started doing some reading, proved to be helpful I think. Crispeed was very busy today tuning a car, so it was tough to get some answers on a few problems. I believe after looking through the instructional CD though I have them failry sorted out.

Tomorrow, I just about have to dyno the car. Tonight it rained, no track, thank goodness as we were not ready. Monday we plan to race, so I have to have the car done.

I will say one thing. Sitting still and just rev'ing the engine, the car has NEVER rev'd this quickly and freely, it's rediculous. Not sure why it is so responsive now but whatever the reason it is a welcome, noticable difference.

I have to tell myself I have thousands of hours in the AEM EMS, switching over to this is not going to make me a Pro at it in 10 hours of working with it.
Im glad to hear how nice its revving, idling etc.. I dont tune but have driven both my RS and GSR on AEM and HALTECH and i can notice many differences in the car.. I always say how much i notice driveability which is probably from the 32x32 mapping and Injector control.. The processor is faster on the Haltech also..

I quoted in bold what i knew would be your only issue.. As my friend i know your patience level.. Im glad to you realize rome was not " tuned " in 1 night.. LOL Youll figure it all out if you read & just play around with it.. You call it fumbling but nobody picks up a brand new engine MGMT and just goes to work on it.. Youll get it figured out and i KNOW FOR A FACT your car will be quicker than ever... Good luck..


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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
crcain, mike etc., it's not cluttering the thread, feel free to discuss it here, it's a good topic. This thread is just an update on what's going on so I do not have any problems with anything be posted in here. No worries.

I did find out this morning that I am/was mistaken. The Haltech does not have knock control. This is a pretty big bummer for me to be honest, not sure where I got that it did have it but now that I know it doesn't I am very up in the air about using it. It's on it's way here now and I'll have it this morning. I'm going to have to do some thinking about it all at this point.

I sure hate to run the car like it is, as fast as it feels, I CAN NOT deal with another cam sensor problem and torn up parts for some BS reason. Parts break and that's something we all have to deal with but paying for major fixes for a $40 sensor pisses me off.

scheides,
I have posted graphs on the car but now for awhile you are right. The car was at 690 whp/535 torque at 40 psi last time it was on the dyno. That is the most power it had ever made on the BF272 cams. It is also the fattest power curve. I did not post that graph simply because it is down from when I had the big custom ground Crane cams in the car. Those were good for an additional 40 whp. One of the lobes got wiped out and I had to take them out. I am working now to get those cams ground again but the technology used to grind them is making it tough to duplicate them, they were not 1950's technology like the majority of the other cams we are all using.

r/t ernie, the mods list is extensive. I'll give a brief run down of it below:
BR Stage 3 2.1
BR Stage 3 head
BF272 cams
BR double pumper/twin feed line kit
BR fuel rail/stock regulator
BR Vband, 3" turbo back with two mufflers
BR forward facing turbo kit with HTA86 turbo
BR coil on plug ignition
BR race FMIC
BR sheetmetal intake manifold
BR 65 mm throttle body
AEM EMS
BR i/c pipes uppper/lower

That's pretty much the major parts.


dave u ever think about hks vpro?? i know u need to be a dealer but there a great eng mang to work with, ivey just went 9.1 with his evo 8 on vpro
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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I was a Vpro dealer, didn't like the system. This car went 9.04 at 159.64 mph on a T3 and AEM.
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