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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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correct, titanium turbine wheel, oil and water cooled CHRA (water is not mandatory) and high-end dual ball bearings. full specifications going up on full-race.com shortly.....
only the vgt is missing, where is it?

j/k, looks like an amazing product
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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A couple pics robbed from some other forum and some things I see.

Titanium "full back" turbine wheel
Thin blades (good for efficiency)
Deep "cup" profile makes for great flow and high efficiency



Nice inlet profile that looks fairly short to offer good flow to the port but still has a radius to the main inlet area.
Could be the size of the turbo or the shaft, but the hub seems bigger then I expected
Turbo speed sensor "bung"


Steel back plate???
Non-V-band turbine housing attachement???

Shallow angle diffuser outlet
V-band outlet w/internal flapper style wastegate (I assume something like the BMW setup but maybe more compact?)
Looks pretty aggressive on the blade profile
Nice investment cast housing finish
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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I want more!!!!!!
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff
sorry, the vband clamp did not pass borgwarner's durability testing so this design was not released. EFR turbine housings are stainless steel so if you wanted to do it badly enough, you can weld a vband flange on, but i dont think that is worth the effort when you could just go twinscroll from the onset.
Ok thanks for the info Geoff. Looks like I'll be getting a toxic fab twin scroll front facing manifold built next year to run a EFR 62mm-67mm.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Oh **** I just noticed no ETT??????
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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I feel like it's not worth much to ask... but I will anyhow.

So the S362 is a 62mm inducer and 84mm exducer. The very best part of its comp map is like 72-73 lb/min. Will there be something of similiar size flowing mid to upper 70 lb/min with the same spool? Or is that post SEMA talk? Also, dimensionally speaking, similiar stature? The setup in mind MUST have a v-band outlet or it just wouldn't clear stock A/C and such - way too tight for a 4/5 bolt outlet. Not necessarily a big deal since welding one on is a possibility though. Or if they're a little tighter than the BEP stuff maybe a 4 bolt could work.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Looks like the diffuser may cause some heartache for the A/C guys.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
Looks like the diffuser may cause some heartache for the A/C guys.
the EFR turbos bolt-up to our A/C compatible twinscroll manifold with dual external wastegates, no problem there

Originally Posted by 3gEclipseTurbo
I just noticed no ETT??????
incorrect, these have one of the most aggressive tip profile ive ever seen. ill try and put some pics up to illustrate that

Originally Posted by SloEvo12
Will there be something of similiar size flowing mid to upper 70 lb/min with the same spool?...The setup in mind MUST have a v-band outlet or it just wouldn't clear stock A/C and such.
weve got you covered with EFR goodness A/C compatible, bolts up to our twinscroll T4 manifold and it is a tight fit, but its the setup Sierra Sierra is using and pleased with, fwiw
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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Which one will make 900+ Thats the one I want!

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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the largest EFR will do it... forged billet compressor wheel @ 67mm inducer, 91mm exducer. 80mm titanium alloy turbine wheel. ceramic cartridge bearings, and the compressor map will not be beat by any mfg for this size wheel.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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big update to the Full-Race EFR page with complete technical specification


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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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I'm looking for a turbo that is capable of 50lbs/min and at the very least 60lbs/min on Full Kill Mode!
50lbs/min needs to be reached before 4k rpm.

I was looking real hard at the S200SX twinscroll T4.

If I'm going to spend the money on a new turbo system and exotic twinscroll manifold, I might as well wait for the EFR series to be released and run a Twin Scroll T4 manifold and never look back.

Since Geoff at Full Race has announced the new EFR Series from Borg Warner, I'm starting to rethink the twin scroll T3 Holset HX35 that I was planning on running.

Others have proven the HX35 to over 500whp at 30psi.
Even running 272 sized cams the HX35 is hitting 20+ psi by 3500rpms using .55A/R DSM Bolt-On housing.

When can we spend our money on these beautiful new Borg Warner turbos Geoff?
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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The T25 and T3 stuff is only single entry and internal wastegate, right?

Some of those features look very sexy. Are any of those pictures of the t4 divided/internal wastegate?

So how does the flow of the turbine wheels compare size wise to the garretts?

58mm EFR ~= GT30 flow?

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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Integrated BOV? I havent seen that in a turbo since the Porsche 935 KKK that I can think of.

Nice

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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Lots of cool features on the turbo...
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