BR presents the new FP BLACK HTA82!
Oct 20, 2009, 11:10 AM
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I think pushing this turbo on a stock block with all the bolt-ons might be a little too much like RTErnie said.
David, do you think running this turbo on a stock block safely will even be worth it? I think you will end up having to cut so much of the turbos potential it will end up being a waste.
David, do you think running this turbo on a stock block safely will even be worth it? I think you will end up having to cut so much of the turbos potential it will end up being a waste.
Oct 20, 2009, 11:25 AM
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Fantastic results for a good solid build and all-out E85 action! Def curious to see a setup like this on a bit lower boost but the numbers here are great testiment to what this turbo is capable of when going full tilt w/o getting too crazy with other mods like electric water pump and such like is done to the bad bish or OKIX car. Def could be the turbo to buy for those doing built bottom-end and big boost! The powerband from the smaller turbine wheel being in a smaller, twin-scroll housing is amazing. Thanks for the review david!
Whoever the owner is, could you please post up your impressions on driveability compared to the red?
Whoever the owner is, could you please post up your impressions on driveability compared to the red?
Oct 20, 2009, 11:57 AM
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I don't get why people are saying the FP Black is too much for the stock block. There are hundreds of stock block Evos out there running a 35R at 500+whp doing just fine.
Oct 20, 2009, 12:00 PM
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this will be the turbo of choice for me when i am ready.
anyways, so since it makes about 550 on your dyno david, the car will be capable of 140+ in a full weight car like chris's i assume?
anyways, so since it makes about 550 on your dyno david, the car will be capable of 140+ in a full weight car like chris's i assume?
Oct 20, 2009, 12:40 PM
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Do you really think the majority of the people who get the FP Blacks will come anywhere close to 539whp on Buschur's Dyno? They are most likely going to be around 500+whp on a dynojet with around 30-35psi on a stock block.
Oct 20, 2009, 12:56 PM
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Ok, way behind. Been a very intersting day here with another car we built, look for the other thread on that one, it's worth reading.
Anyway, it was asked about the difference in the turbine wheels. Both turbos use the same 67mm turbine wheel, the red and black.
I think Boltz asked about the best numbers of this car being 494 previously to the 537 now, yes, I'd agree with that being a good comparison, same boost, same gear and 43 whp'ish gains. Consider the fact this is a compressor upgrade only and that's a damn good gain in power.
GST, I do not use any correction factor but you know how the smoothing runs on the MD's? I run our smoothing on 60 which I think is where it was when we had it set up originally. The dyno screen when the run is over will read "550" and then when it applies the smoothing it takes the little bumps out of the curve and you end up printing a sheet that reads "535". Follow me?
I have 7 of these turbos that can be shipped within 2 weeks, I am told that is fact by Robert himself and what we have on order right now.
The upgrade pricing is not set up yet.
Anyway, it was asked about the difference in the turbine wheels. Both turbos use the same 67mm turbine wheel, the red and black.
I think Boltz asked about the best numbers of this car being 494 previously to the 537 now, yes, I'd agree with that being a good comparison, same boost, same gear and 43 whp'ish gains. Consider the fact this is a compressor upgrade only and that's a damn good gain in power.
GST, I do not use any correction factor but you know how the smoothing runs on the MD's? I run our smoothing on 60 which I think is where it was when we had it set up originally. The dyno screen when the run is over will read "550" and then when it applies the smoothing it takes the little bumps out of the curve and you end up printing a sheet that reads "535". Follow me?
I have 7 of these turbos that can be shipped within 2 weeks, I am told that is fact by Robert himself and what we have on order right now.
The upgrade pricing is not set up yet.
Oct 20, 2009, 12:59 PM
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So, if you want to call that "500+whp on a dynojet" more power to ya, but IMHO that is pushing the stock bottom end too far for any kind of sincerely planned long-term reliability. No one's gonna stop ya from doing it though
Oct 20, 2009, 01:00 PM
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Your waitlist is longer than 7 though, correct? If not...my wife might kill me...
BTW - thanks for the comparison test, Dave and BR crew! "BR - aiding marital rifts for more than 10 years!"
BTW - thanks for the comparison test, Dave and BR crew! "BR - aiding marital rifts for more than 10 years!"
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