Penthouse (brother) lol - did you get ran on a dynojet or what?

 

penthouse, you just need better cams and a better FMIC. I seriously doubt your car would make more peak power at 30 psi on E85 with a swap to a BBK.

 

cbrb , ETS, buschur or AMS fmic , gsc s2 and a built 2.3 are my next mods.

 

Dynojet .

 

Yea from what I read those BC cams blow. I bet you would pick some more up top with just new cams dude cough cough GSC S2's like your planning!

 

my goal was 500whp dynojet. iam not sure if switching to gsc s2 will do it.

 

AMS/ETS FMIC and the S2's should get you over 500whp on E85 with the Red on a dynojet...the BC 272's are weak; the Greddy 264's I have made as much power as the BC 272's on AMS's cam test

 

Penthouse yank those pos crower cams for some S2's and call it a day with e85 man. You'll be at 500 DJ.

Someone must be creating accounts to vote for the RED too, LOL.

 

WOW! Those are #s I could be VERY happy with! I NEED this turbo!

I have a question though, how much less HP do you guys think I would make with the HKS 272s that I'm already running? (I know there are alot of HKS cam haters out there, but I put them in the car over four years ago)

 

I beat you to it by 1 minute!

I'd say somewhere around 10-25whp less and probably a few ft-lbs also (depending on additional mods, boost, fuel). But I think the real difference between your HKS 272s and the S2's will be in your actual powerband

 

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the thread is still alive!!!



cb

 

It's still funny to me that this thread is comparing a 47lb/min turbo (even though it acts more like a 54lb/min turbo) to a 57(or is it 60?)lb/min turbo. The BBK Full is still IMHO the best performing pump gas turbo on the market for 99% of evo owners. It's a simple, reliable setup that just works.

Really in a few weeks/months this thread should then become FP Red vs BBK-B but we all know its going to be FP Black vs BBK-B and again, not be an even comparison, but the numbers will still be impressive from the underdog.

 

I guess what it comes down to is...
BBK = stock spool with slightly less top end
FP RED = few hundred rpm's slower spool with more top end

Really what I wanted with this thread (and I think I achieved) was people's opinions on both turbos that way others can look through and make an informed decision for themselves before spending $1300+

I think that FP Red vs BBK-B/XL (whatever it's going to be named) will be a good comparison and comparing to the FP BLACK wouldn't be fair. I should've specified which BBK in the OP but when I made this, I never knew there was a Full AND a Lite. I just ASSumed it was the Full.

 

You sound surprised!