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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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I also remember seeing the Supercharged and Turbo'ed Integra in a Turbo magazine. This setup looks amazing. I am excited to hear more!
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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400 ft lbs at 3200 rpm, sign me up!

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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Let me tell you guys...

I have driven the 1.4 Tsi engine on a VW Golf in Europe and i have to say, amazing. We are talking for a 1.4 liter engine with the low down torque of a 2.5!!! i drove the "small" 140hp version for about 1000 miles but they also have a more powerful version with 170hp and 177 ft/lbs from 1,750 to 4,500rpm.

On a larger scale this will be very impressive. Its 100% doable since VW uses it in a massively produced engine/car.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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kit ina few months according to the thread on the other site, theyre prototyping now.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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I wonder about the $$
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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I would get too excited guys. This kit will be very expensive. And in the end it adds too much weight and complexity to really be worthwhile.

would be sooo much simpler to do it like porsche does with variable turbine. 450tq from 1800-5800rpm.

Bushers project white made 450TQ at 3500rpm on his low reading dyno. and kept pulling to 8000rpm. No one was really looking at that powerband. Most just dont know how to read a graph. But the powerband on that car was downright incredible without adding the weight and complexity.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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there was someone that has attempted this on an Evo 8 here on the forum a while back. Good to see ND got everything sorted out
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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There indeed was a twincharged evo a couple of years back. He made 600-700 whp and said it was a blast to drive and pain to maintain. He went through 3 motors I believe.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
I would get too excited guys. This kit will be very expensive. And in the end it adds too much weight and complexity to really be worthwhile.

would be sooo much simpler to do it like porsche does with variable turbine. 450tq from 1800-5800rpm.

Bushers project white made 450TQ at 3500rpm on his low reading dyno. and kept pulling to 8000rpm. No one was really looking at that powerband. Most just dont know how to read a graph. But the powerband on that car was downright incredible without adding the weight and complexity.
Wow so negative out of the gate and with so little real information...

The Porsche turbo you refer to also is on a 3.6L system, so that helps with the tq quite a bit....Yeah I love that car and it is a blast to drive, but it also costs ~3x the Evo. Of the two, the Evo is better around town (my kids think so)...

The question I would have to ask is what transmission and drivetrain is going to be able to maintain that kind of power for an extended period of time ?
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
I would get too excited guys. This kit will be very expensive. And in the end it adds too much weight and complexity to really be worthwhile.

would be sooo much simpler to do it like porsche does with variable turbine. 450tq from 1800-5800rpm.

Bushers project white made 450TQ at 3500rpm on his low reading dyno. and kept pulling to 8000rpm. No one was really looking at that powerband. Most just dont know how to read a graph. But the powerband on that car was downright incredible without adding the weight and complexity.

? this sheet?
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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It is crazy.. has any old DSM'er or the like tried this on a 4G63 before?

Or how about any sport compact aftermarket car?
Not quite "twin charging" but I'm running a compound turbo setup that works well. I doubt I'll get as good low end from this since I sized it for a higher rpm range, I never see below 7500 after the launch, but it works. I need to get some dyno pulls from low rpm to see what the low end and midrange looks like, I usually start the pulls at 6-7k unfortunately.

Anyone know if this ND setup is byapssing the SC or running it like a compound setup in series?
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
Bushers project white made 450TQ at 3500rpm on his low reading dyno. and kept pulling to 8000rpm. No one was really looking at that powerband. Most just dont know how to read a graph. But the powerband on that car was downright incredible without adding the weight and complexity.
Also,that car didnt have a chance in hell at making 1000 whp, this one does.

Weight and complexity yields amazing performance increases in this case... yes the cost will be high but you simply cannot achieve these results otherwise.

Considering this setup can produce TWICE the power of the one you posted with almost definitely better spool, I'd say its worth it, if the cost for the whole setup is under 10k.

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