How much HP from Porting FP Red
You are saying 25 MD AWHP from just you porting a 10.5 housing on a Red, with everything else remaining unchanged: includes same peak boost level(30#), same mods and parts, same tune, same AFR's, same octane, same DYNO, dynoed under same conditions, same ambient temps, etc., same timing up top, and same fuel table?
Last edited by sparky; Feb 22, 2010 at 07:16 PM.
^ Sparky, yes everything would be the same at first. I'll post up direct swap than tuning difference. We will prob do it on pump and E85 before and after.
Mikey
Mikey
O.K., Mikey! R/T Ernie should have at least invited us all down to Los Cabos, though! Don't you think, Rockster? LOL
Last edited by sparky; Feb 22, 2010 at 07:36 PM.
All else remaining equal, it would require a considerable, "Leap of Faith" to prognosticate a 25 MD AWHP increase from merely massaging a 10.5 housing. I don't think it is doable on a 2-Liter. Especially if boost levels, fuel tables, and timing maps and all power mods remain strictly unaltered.
Last edited by sparky; Feb 22, 2010 at 08:43 PM.
I'm pushing a lot of Air through the Red though... We will just have to see. I can tell you that the port work will be damn good and better than anything ever seen. bling bling. 
But for real, I think we will see some good gains. It is a bone stock 10.5 and the cast suck and the stock twin scroll design sucks for flow. imho I also think the higher boost I start to run, above 30psi the more the porting will start to help.
You are a smart guy sparky and have been around for a long time and I respect you and your thoughts. I always seem to learn from you. I'll keep you posted as things progress...
Mikey

But for real, I think we will see some good gains. It is a bone stock 10.5 and the cast suck and the stock twin scroll design sucks for flow. imho I also think the higher boost I start to run, above 30psi the more the porting will start to help.
You are a smart guy sparky and have been around for a long time and I respect you and your thoughts. I always seem to learn from you. I'll keep you posted as things progress...
Mikey
Rockster: It might be doable because Mikey is running 30# of boost. Turbine housing porting is similar to O2 dumps in that you have to be running relatively high boost levels to note a significant power difference. I just think that it will be tough to get 25 MD AWHP, even at 30#. Of course, it is just my opinion. I hope to be proven wrong as i am a big fan of Mikey's car and totally respect R/T Ernie's fab work. Cheers! I am just playing the Devil's Advocate.
well i have no ideal i just know mine is ported to do it now and get it over with is my deal. once i install this stuff i dont want to have to change anything unless its oil or pads or injectors later on LOL once on its on so port work is a must.
Rockster: It might be doable because Mikey is running 30# of boost. Turbine housing porting is similar to O2 dumps in that you have to be running relatively high boost levels to note a significant power difference. I just think that it will be tough to get 25 MD AWHP, even at 30#. Of course, it is just my opinion. I hope to be proven wrong as i am a big fan of Mikey's car and totally respect R/T Ernie's fab work. Cheers! I am just playing the Devil's Advocate.

Mikey
It's kinda like a race ported cylinder head. If the porting guy goes for max flow volume, then you need a radical enough camshaft profile to take advantage of the increased flow potential of the ported head.
Maybe Mikey and Ernie can get 25+ out of the turbine housing port work. But, I just feel that they'll have to turn the boost up to 32-34#. Of course, I am rooting for them!
Maybe Mikey and Ernie can get 25+ out of the turbine housing port work. But, I just feel that they'll have to turn the boost up to 32-34#. Of course, I am rooting for them!
Last edited by sparky; Feb 22, 2010 at 10:19 PM.



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