You are right, the inlet from the blower is a major pain to install and to remove. I left that part in my old car when I removed the IC..... I have the IC itself and the discharge side pipe. If I cannot get a decent price out of it, I'll prolly keep it and install it in my MR sometime. One thing I noticed with the Greddy RSPL was that the blower could hold boost a lot better...............

 

Hks Hks Hks

 

i was wondering anyone out there got injen FMIC? cux i bought it before i saw this forms. i wish i knew.. but i am very happy with it. got pretty good deal wtih upper and lower ic pipe and intake kit. i was just wondering thats all. and it came out nice and everything. i can feel little more power when i took for very frist time road test. havent go on dyno yet, but will do dyno and tuned by this spring. anyone know how to put up a pix here? please help me out so can show the pix. thanks

 

Does Greddy make the Type R intercooler kit for the Evo 8? I only see the V-spec. RRE doesnt recommend the V spec for upgraded turbo kits.

 

Your friend is partially right about the intercoolers and blocking air and such to the radiator. It could be a problem on certain cars. On an EVO though I haven't seen any problems with ANY of the intercoolers out there.

Our Deluxe FMIC really addressed that issue though as it actually increases the air flow to the radiator, that was part of the idea behind the design. The other is the incredibly short intercooler plumbing design that the deluxe kit uses. ($750)

Our standard kit doesn't use the short plumbing kit but does bolt right into the stock location and doesn't require cutting or heating/forming of the undertray. (I vote for throwing the undertray in the track where it belongs)($650)

This particular core/end tank design has gone 8.61 at 158 mph too by the way. It is good for an efficient 750 whp.


Thanks for the support of our product on this Poll guys!

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

+ the BR FMIC is bar and plate. Not the tube/fin like the greddy,HKS units. Bar and plate transfers more heat, BTUs per cubic inch than any other style core.

 

Watch our dyno thread in the next week or so for some additional testing on the FMIC kits, standard and deluxe.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Injen, you left out Injen, and a bunch of others too, if I'm not mistaken...but I'd say buschur out of your list, dave seems to back his products fairly well

 

Just tested our standard FMIC kit. Picked up 13 whp and 10 ft lbs of torque. Power gains of course would be higher on a more highly modified car, this is just our Stage 2 kit on pump gas.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Back AND TEST! He kills his shop cars on the dyno to make ours faster...
Love that "old school approach" if it doesn't make HP yyou don't need it( keeps my car out front) David also really suprized me with his long coming but well considered conversion to the flash tuning method. (I was an early convert but I'm somewhat impulsive...).

 

I like my turbo XS its big and it gets the job done

 

i guess i've been on the intercooler research lately. from what i've seen and discussed with people here's a few cents.

to everyone that has suggested anything besides arc hks greddy buschur or aps/turboxs/hyperflow, you need to study end tanks.

i'd say... anything that is not in the basic shape of these above listed intercoolers is not the way to go. i don't quite like the stock type end tanks and many people have mimicked it to my annoyance. i don't see how that's a good way to move air but perhaps it's becuase of what i'll talk about later.

i'd personally say the aps/hyperflow/turboxs (seems they're all the same thing outta australia) is the best unit. the end tank design is flawless and conventional the welds are great and the turboxs one is cheap.

hks and arc are on the same page with the ultra thin ultra smoothed out endtanks with the prebent inlets... that's cool but doesn't justify price.

i'd say that avo perrid and all those others just don't look like they flow well geometrically... i just can't put my heart in it. the perrin has that weird tapering on the endtanks, the avo shoots the air at the bottom but the end tanks bulge above the inlets. that just seems like it'll trap stale air.

the ams/stock style cores are prolly banking on the angle inlet causing more turbulance and getting more air to circulate and contact metal for heat exchange. so... i hate them... but maybe that's why they're the way they are.

ok so onto buschur... it's obvious buschur has the most complete kit. the side inlet nature of the lower ic pipe may serve well as a turbulance inducer (idea compliments of robi) the core is heavy which for southern california racers is a good thing. more metal means more atoms to move heat.

picture a line of atoms... dividing two sides of air, one side hotter than the other. if one atom can only exchange one packet of heat at a time and you have a delay time in between each heat packet pick up and drop off then you'd see that two lines of atoms would move more than one and so on becuase the subsequent lines can act as heat sinks, a resevoir for the heat waiting to get taken away. this is important because if the first line of atoms isn't taking away heat then that heat goes right through to your engine. basically you want to keep the first line's "hands free" so it can keep evacuating heat. the pretense of this is that aluminum is a good conductor particularly to itself especially if it's one piece so heat goes faster to more aluminum than it does straight to air. air is a poor *** conductor and it takes more time for heat to go to air, hence the need for a very temporary sink. so... heavier is better...

in that case greddy is pretty light... and small... and the dimensions are small too...things to consider...

now buschur also gives you 3" more radiator breathing... that's priceless... hks and arc will only block more...

so what do i want? i'm actually torn... maybe i'll go with custom mounting a turboxs really low and go custom ic piping... but the br is so complete... with slight fitment issues...

 

do any of the manufacturers use the Garrett cores? Thus far i think its the best bar/plate design i've seen...even compared to spearco and PWR cores. I know Precision uses garrett cores but i haven't seen one of their IC's on an Evo.

 

damn that looks pretty nice to me man, never seen up close shots of these, the Garrett core looks to be right the f()ck on!!!

 

I know a guy that makes those cores for evo, we will be releasing the kit soon stay tuned. Looking for below 600$ shipped.

Chris