Nicks LR 2.4 FP Black Build
Weight savings/reducing reciprocating weight in an engine is part of a cumulative effect on engine/horsepower/throttle response. You may not be a fan of it for whatever reason, but it works and certainly adds up. Our MIL.SPEC H-Beam rods come in at 567grams in their present form (we're working on getting the weight down without sacrificing strength...there is some room to play with on the big end), and can withstand 800hp. Our soon to be released billet pistons come in at 262 grams per piston (sans pin). That is WAY lighter than a Manley Turbo Tuff and a 300+ gram piston combo (of course, more expensive, but you gotta pay to play).
Another thing to consider is reducing friction, which will also show up as more power/better throttle response. But that's a whole other area.
Also with regards to overall car weight, if you look at the fastest Evos (and cars in general), they've all been gutted to a degree. Weight savings is something fast cars have in common. Most of the fast Evos are around 2700 to 2800 pounds, some lighter, some heavier.
All this stuff adds up, and it all costs money. You just have to decide if it's worth it to your own personal cost/benefit analysis. You won't find me rocking $300 True Religion jeans, but some people don't think twice about it.
Another thing to consider is reducing friction, which will also show up as more power/better throttle response. But that's a whole other area.
Also with regards to overall car weight, if you look at the fastest Evos (and cars in general), they've all been gutted to a degree. Weight savings is something fast cars have in common. Most of the fast Evos are around 2700 to 2800 pounds, some lighter, some heavier.
All this stuff adds up, and it all costs money. You just have to decide if it's worth it to your own personal cost/benefit analysis. You won't find me rocking $300 True Religion jeans, but some people don't think twice about it.
Thanks Erik, I for one really like your rods and LOVE your pistons. They look sick as **** and weigh a considerable amount less than other pistons. I would have loved to run your MilSpec rod/pistons but the money was not there at the moment... 
When you release your pistons you need to make a nice thread with pics. I'm sure everyone will like the way they look, I sure did 
Rock, when you get that craving for ice cream there is no speed limit or limit to boost
Mikey
When you release your pistons you need to make a nice thread with pics. I'm sure everyone will like the way they look, I sure did Rock, when you get that craving for ice cream there is no speed limit or limit to boost
Mikey
woah rock, take it easy man. I'm not paying for titanium rods. are you kidding me here. im not ballin like Jim jones. But for the record, titanium rods aren't stupid. if you think they are, tell that to the f1 cars along with the engineers who made the veyron. yes, the veyron is 1 million plus, but it uses titanium rods. Now it has to be modified and a specially made rod that won't stretch etc and not for pistons just rods.
Weight is everything if you race. The whole premise behind sport bikes is phenomenal rotational weight and general weight because it's small. we're talking 21k reving here. Is my discussion applicable to this build? nah, just food for thought. I don't know any evos that use titanium or ever will because it is stupid. but the talk wasn't about stupidity. Just like silver is the best conductor of electricity. but who makes every circuit with silver?? nobody because it's ballllin and isn't worth it. In the "race" world where you need to win by .002 seconds that weight savings helps. there is a reason all those cars are carbon fiber blah blah.
i can only dream of being that skilled in which my driving skills have exceeded the capabilities of the car and the only factor keeping me from being faster is the rotational weight in the engine hah. thats like 1 percent or less of the "skilled" population.
when i rode sportbikes, i was never fast enough to say i need a litrebike to improve my time. the 600 always looked at me and said "you're decent at best" and despite all the track time and beating others it meant nothing because my skills never surpassed the bike. and thats a factory 600 which is easier to control than a litre which is 10 times easier than controling a gp bike. after not qualifying for ama due to not fast enough times... I was simply unable to "close" the needed gap to qualify race 1 and there are many more qualifications after. i sold the bike, bought an evo and calmed the f down and this is where the story continues
so relax man, its all in good convo,
Weight is everything if you race. The whole premise behind sport bikes is phenomenal rotational weight and general weight because it's small. we're talking 21k reving here. Is my discussion applicable to this build? nah, just food for thought. I don't know any evos that use titanium or ever will because it is stupid. but the talk wasn't about stupidity. Just like silver is the best conductor of electricity. but who makes every circuit with silver?? nobody because it's ballllin and isn't worth it. In the "race" world where you need to win by .002 seconds that weight savings helps. there is a reason all those cars are carbon fiber blah blah.
i can only dream of being that skilled in which my driving skills have exceeded the capabilities of the car and the only factor keeping me from being faster is the rotational weight in the engine hah. thats like 1 percent or less of the "skilled" population.
when i rode sportbikes, i was never fast enough to say i need a litrebike to improve my time. the 600 always looked at me and said "you're decent at best" and despite all the track time and beating others it meant nothing because my skills never surpassed the bike. and thats a factory 600 which is easier to control than a litre which is 10 times easier than controling a gp bike. after not qualifying for ama due to not fast enough times... I was simply unable to "close" the needed gap to qualify race 1 and there are many more qualifications after. i sold the bike, bought an evo and calmed the f down and this is where the story continues
so relax man, its all in good convo,
Lucky. well maybe sometime soon ill have my fortune rx7 to drive to the store
Last edited by RockmanX; Jun 16, 2010 at 08:02 PM.
This thread makes me antsy. I'm 2 weeks away from putting the deposit down on my 2.4L with Manley and Weisco pieces. My car has been down since mid-March and I can't wait to have it back.
In the mean time, I purchased a 1991 Ford Ranger 2.3L I4 5-speed manual. I miss my AC and HP.
-Acree
In the mean time, I purchased a 1991 Ford Ranger 2.3L I4 5-speed manual. I miss my AC and HP.
-Acree
Haha tell me about it. Since last september ive been driving a 97 Dodge Ram Sport, with a 5.9L (9-12mpg if im lucky)
And i drive about 300 miles a week to my jobs/school. Boy am I ready to have my car back!
And i drive about 300 miles a week to my jobs/school. Boy am I ready to have my car back!
This thread makes me antsy. I'm 2 weeks away from putting the deposit down on my 2.4L with Manley and Weisco pieces. My car has been down since mid-March and I can't wait to have it back.
In the mean time, I purchased a 1991 Ford Ranger 2.3L I4 5-speed manual. I miss my AC and HP.
-Acree
In the mean time, I purchased a 1991 Ford Ranger 2.3L I4 5-speed manual. I miss my AC and HP.
-Acree
This thread makes me antsy. I'm 2 weeks away from putting the deposit down on my 2.4L with Manley and Weisco pieces. My car has been down since mid-March and I can't wait to have it back.
In the mean time, I purchased a 1991 Ford Ranger 2.3L I4 5-speed manual. I miss my AC and HP.
-Acree
In the mean time, I purchased a 1991 Ford Ranger 2.3L I4 5-speed manual. I miss my AC and HP.
-Acree
Just trying to save you a couple grand
I will have full details and a write up when the engine gets in.
I will also be sending my stock IX turbo off to FP to get "Black" stamped on the side.
-Acree
No worries. I won't be going with SBR. Their lack of professionalism was astounding both times I spoke with them on the phone.
I will have full details and a write up when the engine gets in.
I will also be sending my stock IX turbo off to FP to get "Black" stamped on the side.
-Acree
I will have full details and a write up when the engine gets in.
I will also be sending my stock IX turbo off to FP to get "Black" stamped on the side.
-Acree
