I've used meth for 3 years, had no issues on with the motor at all. I don't run the car hard per say, but usually run 23+ PSI on the stock 9 turbo. Just my experiance

 

my opinion:

if there is any chance that tuning for methanol presents an unnecessary risk for my engine i won't use it. this coming from a guy that has a very nice SMC kit in his garage.
i have TWO tuners that know their **** and can tune pump gas just fine. i don't have to worry about a pump failing, a nozzle clogging, etc, etc.
why put myself through the added stress???
i've lost an engine to meth before (my fault for not having a "low-level" warning light + an unknown leak were the feed tube entered the reservoir). $3,800 for an Integra Type-R engine did not make me happy. i don't wanna go through that again.
i choose not to go through that stress for what? 50whp or so, on my stock engine and turbo? actually, i wouldn't do it for an extra 100whp.
i prefer to get into my car and have fun. put in some pump gas. done. sadly, we have 91 here. wee.
as for E85, i'd do it if pumps were closer than 45mins away. i'm not dropping $100s to fill up a container that i can't transport anyway (i have no truck).
so, for now i'll just be happy with my <350whp and enjoy it. 'till i get my BBK.


edit: i plan to road race my car. if i could use a LIGHT amount of water/meth to keep the engine running cool, no really to gain horsepower, that would be kinda cool.

 

^probably what I'll do on my 2.4L since meth is installed. Utilize it as knock suppressant. We'll see, though. Having Aaron and Lucas helps me sleep better.

You must literally **** in your tank to use meth to run 23psi. People here run 28psi on pump with success. Our pump gas says 93 but it is closer to 92 IMO.

 

But I bet it's a VERY safe 23psi with more timing = fast spool and sick midrange.
Plus, a lot of us deal with 91oct. We don't have the luxury of decent gas.
I can't imagine the stock turbo being anywhere near efficient @ 28psi, but I'm no tuner.

 

i was under the impression you tuned for fail safe with meth...

 

There's actually a somewhat lengthy thread on that here:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...o-cracked.html

 

This pretty much says it all. Thanks for the input JB!

Aquamist FTW, nothing else!

 

except E85 if you are lucky enough to get it. :P lol

 

Deathanol can still be the root cause. Like I have said in this thread and others its all relative to how much you are putting in. No knock and too much mixture and a misfire can lead to hydraulicking and a dead motor as well.

 

I think this is not a problem just with the meth. The customer could of had no fail safes and ran the car dry too many times, could of been knocking in lower gears like I had problems with, if you use a Aquamist or a primed system this wont happen. Also, if the customer was running 50/50 the afr's should of been closer to 11.5-12 range which would not make sense to have carbon built up like that.

I think it was an issue with the system, installation, meth starvation, or knock caused by a bad tune. Could be ALLOT of things. But to blame the meth idea all together as the "cause" of the failure? I doubt that very much. There is more to the story here for sure...

 

The thing is folks, is E85 is ONLY here for political reasons, it is NOT popular in the senate if you people listen to them. It is proposed to be phased out startingin 2012. For the first time in US HISTORY we have imported Grains. E85 is poor in MPG as was the hope and its TOO exspensive to produce efficiently. Within 5 yrs E85 will be out. I will try to get it in writing, but email your local congress or senator, they will tell you.

So now what? and ALLOT of E85 stations on the West coast WTF?? in California we have like 15 in the whole state. Closest one to me is over 100 miles away. I drive my car every day, E85 equals 15mph, I would get roughly 150 miles before needing gas, I drive 300 a week? NOT PRACTICAL.

Seems I am stuck on 91 CA **** gas for longer. Was going to get a aquamist HFS-3, but may have second thoughts now..

Again, if you dont believe me on the E85 write your congressmen, or woman.

 

This is another reason why i want to stick with meth. E85 could be a fad and disappear at anytime. Then Im stuck with a double pumper and huge injectors

 

Good idea.. Rather than be stuck with a blown motor id much rather be stuck with a good Double pumper and some injectors.. A fad?? Even if the gas stations quit selling it their will always be suppliers for E98.. If it disappeared 100% i would make my own.. id much rather do that than lose HP..

Mike

 

+1

 

I love my "Deathanol" as Arron puts it! ER made my meth kit for me over 3 years ago and it is still running strong to this day. I like being able to be 500+ awhp on straight 92 octane then with a flip of a switch I am in the 670+ range.

As long as you have the proper fail safes and keep up on simple items and have a proper tune it shouldn't be a problem IMO