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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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How about we don't refer to it as a "1000 hp turbo" until it actually makes 1000 hp? In fact, I bet it NEVER makes 1000hp in an Evo. I'll also give $50 to anyone that does it.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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How about we don't refer to it as a "1000 hp turbo" until it actually makes 1000 hp? In fact, I bet it NEVER makes 1000hp in an Evo. I'll also give $50 to anyone that does it.
Check this out

"HKS T51R SPL - 1000 PS Output

COMPRESSOR:
-Wheel- 56 Trim - 76.5 Inducer/ 102.2 Major
-Housing- 100 Inlet / 80 Outlet
TURBINE:
-Wheel- 76 Trim - 82.0 Major / 71.4 Exducer
-Housing- V-Band inlet / V-Band 115.5 mm outlet - 1.00 A/"

more on http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=817

George
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by 2fast2Furious
Why do you think I call them. BS Solutions. :-)
Like I said it is too early to talk bad about the whole deal
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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George I think you kinda shot yourself in the foot on this one. You should of been hush hush or at least not saying you are going to get 1000 hp from your car. If you just showed pics and showed NO hp goals you would be fine. Now everyone is going to grill your *** if you don't get 1000 HP, I don't think it is going to happen on gas and it will take 30,000 to do it with a evo. whonose I could be wrong.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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Why is it when someone posts on this site and they are trying to do something new, they get so bashed? Hell, I am glad that they are at least going to try. This type of install is not really my kind of deal, but thank God they are still going for it. If people quit trying with these types of responces, we could have been riding in ships across the Atlantic much longer then we did because everyone was laughing at the Wright brothers in 1903, until they shut everyone right the hell up. I gaurantee people weren't laughing when they went to Europe and did a demonstration flight the was heads and shoulders above all of their competion. Like I said, this install is not my kind of deal, but I commend you for at least giving it a go.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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Can we all agree that 800 HP to 850 HP at the wheels would be 1000 at the crank? How unlikely is it to hit 800 at the wheels on race gas with this engine, turbo, and IC setup with a 75 shot of N2O?

I'm not on either side here, I have the "wait and see" mindset.

Keith
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by 2fast2Furious
Why do you think I call them. BS Solutions. :-) Also I am going to have my work done at Balanced. They charge $350 to do turbo back install, computer, cams, and cam gears. I just don't think you are a true mechanic George. Anyone can bolt up a bunch of stuff and make something work. Also they have 3 full time techs that work on the cars, have a few world challenge race cars and when I was there they were tuning a 350WHP Integra on the dyno. Also they have a 12 month 12,000 mile warrantee on there work. Once you guys get a real tech, not a Stop by on Saturday and charge me $400.00 to install cams, hell that is what Mitsu charges also I am not going to pay you to learn what you are doing. You don't have to take the belt off you were trying to screw me out of 2 hours labor also I am not going to pay 100 a hour for someone that has done as many cams swaps in a evo as me *0* Even the reference said you never did anything but install a turbo timer and something else no cams. Good luck man and you need to get a full time tech and make some parts not just bolting up a bunch of crap saying you are going to make 1000 HP, I can say the same thing but talk is cheap.
Hi Ryan,

good luck with balanced. Did Will tell you what happened with his boost controller? He paid $350 an dit wa snot even installed right. So all these 3 techs that work there could not read on the front page of the EVC instructions that you have to install the stepping motor vertically? Probably because they are illeterate? I would not trust them to install a timer, not talking about cams. What about the timer install on the black Evo8 from Hapton? They skipped teh two wires to the ECU... What about the blue NA Supra that had a clutch replaced, and these same 3 SUPER techs FORGOT to put back the nuts on the engine mounts. That is great job. I have more stories but I am too busy now to write all that.

That 350whp Integra had a T61 turbo, supposed to push 500+whp. So that 350whp dyno chart sucks

About your install, you asked me to do it on teh weekend, and I agreed. I told you that I AM the one to install all the engine stuff, and the tuning. If you asked for Monday, that should be fine as well.

About the 12 month/12000mile warranty, they never got any warranty, but a plain EXCUSE ME for the Supra engine that jumped and hit the hood on the blue Supra. You can still see the imprints.

About teh install, looks like Balanced could not really do teh cams in 2 hours, because you and they were firmly believe that YOU DO NOT HAV ETO TAKE THE TIMING BELT OFF FOR CAM REPLACEMENT. Well, guess what, you have to. What kind of mechanic can quote you 2 hours to replace cams when they cannot install a timer in less that an hour, and that is with skipping on teh most time consuming part - the ECU connections. Balanced cannot do anything right, and you will find out that the hard way.

Will said that I installed the timer? Your buddies at Balanced installed the timer and the EVC5, both wrong. We installed the RS kit, exhaust, Tein Flexes, EDFC, e-manage, catch can, tuned it, and that is it. The cams were installed in another customers car.

Bolting up some crap for 1000HP? Ryan McDonald, I think the T51 SPL is a bit more than just bolting up stuff. I invited you here to come and visit us, see our projects, and then decide.

Good luck with Balanced...
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by 2fast2Furious
George I think you kinda shot yourself in the foot on this one. You should of been hush hush or at least not saying you are going to get 1000 hp from your car. If you just showed pics and showed NO hp goals you would be fine. Now everyone is going to grill your *** if you don't get 1000 HP, I don't think it is going to happen on gas and it will take 30,000 to do it with a evo. whonose I could be wrong.
I never said that the car will make 1000HP. I put down on teh picture that the turbo is capable of 1000HP...

30000 what? Dollars - no problem... Rpms - no need for 30000rpms
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Fourdoor
Can we all agree that 800 HP to 850 HP at the wheels would be 1000 at the crank? How unlikely is it to hit 800 at the wheels on race gas with this engine, turbo, and IC setup with a 75 shot of N2O?

I'm not on either side here, I have the "wait and see" mindset.

Keith
800whp with a 9500rpm redline and a properly built engine is not a problem. With that turbo :-)

George
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Fourdoor
Can we all agree that 800 HP to 850 HP at the wheels would be 1000 at the crank? How unlikely is it to hit 800 at the wheels on race gas with this engine, turbo, and IC setup with a 75 shot of N2O?

I'm not on either side here, I have the "wait and see" mindset.

Keith
People were bashing the 3240 turbo until several companies did it. And I think the Norris car did over 800hp on the engine dyno. The 3240 is substantially smaller.

We will have the results soon :-)

George
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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About teh install, looks like Balanced could not really do teh cams in 2 hours, because you and they were firmly believe that YOU DO NOT HAV ETO TAKE THE TIMING BELT OFF FOR CAM REPLACEMENT. Well, guess what, you have to. What kind of mechanic can quote you 2 hours to replace cams when they cannot install a timer in less that an hour, and that is with skipping on teh most time consuming part - the ECU connections. Balanced cannot do anything right, and you will find out that the hard way.
WOW. I charge like fifty bucks to do a cam swap. It never takes more than 1/2 hour. Do your homework.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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WOW. I charge like fifty bucks to do a cam swap. It never takes more than 1/2 hour. Do your homework.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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I personally think they deserve a ton of respect just for trying something like this... if this is successful then it will beat out the norris evo and get boost solutions tons of publicity (i'm sure it will be featured in tons of mags). Anyway best of luck George... and what are you doing for internals?
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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Thanks . Not at the moment for the internals, but this will be the next thing on the list. Let see, how much that engine can hold on low boost.

Andy


Originally posted by JeffWels
I personally think they deserve a ton of respect just for trying something like this... if this is successful then it will beat out the norris evo and get boost solutions tons of publicity (i'm sure it will be featured in tons of mags). Anyway best of luck George... and what are you doing for internals?
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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You should go with a strocker kit to try and get that hairdryer to spin faster What clutch are you running? how bout the 5 inch exhaust... how you gonna clear the oil pan.. my 3" comes dangerously close, I had to heat wrap it to be safe

give us more updates as the project progresses
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