EVO 11.5 Hotside, anybody try it?
Haha you can buy fake iphones on ebay all day long. China is the biggest knock off manufacturer in the world. I would never use the hotside from a China turbo. The compressor wheel and cover I wouldn't be as apprehensive about but never a Chinese hotside.
Well now over 6000 miles added a 4bar map sensor and map o2 pipe with external WG
Also a 100 cel cat and dc3 catch can and I'm at 582awhp & 435 awtq...still with kinagawa and 11.5 hot side car has not melted or smoked nothing but solid performance and reliably
Maybe I got a good one?
Also a 100 cel cat and dc3 catch can and I'm at 582awhp & 435 awtq...still with kinagawa and 11.5 hot side car has not melted or smoked nothing but solid performance and reliably
Maybe I got a good one?
Last edited by evoiao; Jan 16, 2014 at 10:15 AM.
Also, when you mention that the hotside is an MHI piece are you refering to the turbine wheel, the turbine housing, or both together?
Last edited by sparky; Jan 16, 2014 at 05:19 PM.
The housing is no different. Bought one, blew turbo, cut the housing up and comparee to my oem housing the only discernable difference was in cutting the pieces. The 11.5 cut like butter and the OEM ate my blade. a 14 tpi band saw blade. FP has noted that had a high quality aftermarket housing exist, they woud use it.
Its a clone of another mits part with AN3 stamped on it to make the spec nerds go crazy.
Im sorry but I had hoped this thread was dead for good: Lets look at the cost this thing incurred me:
Bought housing to be installed by FP when my FP white rabbit was toast. 200$ +....
Rebuilt turbo not fault of housing fault of abuse
recieve turbo and install. primed and warmed up the turbo takes a dump.
FP gets turbo says housing was incorrectly made
rebuild turbo 400 +
buy OEM housing because original was junk, and kinugawa was junk 325 +
back to square one. Turbo has been running for 2ish years since then.
cliff notes. FP knows a thinkg or two about turbos.
when it oxidized in my garage there was even a good amount of difference in the rust color in comparision
Its a clone of another mits part with AN3 stamped on it to make the spec nerds go crazy.
Im sorry but I had hoped this thread was dead for good: Lets look at the cost this thing incurred me:
Bought housing to be installed by FP when my FP white rabbit was toast. 200$ +....
Rebuilt turbo not fault of housing fault of abuse
recieve turbo and install. primed and warmed up the turbo takes a dump.
FP gets turbo says housing was incorrectly made
rebuild turbo 400 +
buy OEM housing because original was junk, and kinugawa was junk 325 +
back to square one. Turbo has been running for 2ish years since then.
cliff notes. FP knows a thinkg or two about turbos.
when it oxidized in my garage there was even a good amount of difference in the rust color in comparision
Last edited by 211Ratsbud; Jan 16, 2014 at 05:50 PM.
582 WHP, stock longblock, unported head, Kinugawa? Sure bet! What dyno.... Mattel, HASBRO, or Tonka?
Post up the vehicle weight and a trap speed. Then I will believe. Otherwise I say you are full of hay.
Post up the vehicle weight and a trap speed. Then I will believe. Otherwise I say you are full of hay.
Last edited by sparky; Jan 16, 2014 at 11:06 PM.
Ultimately, IMO, the peak HP difference/potencial, between an unported 11.5cm, aftermarket turbine housing, and a fully ported, factory MHI 10.5cm housing would be minimal at best.
If you were to radically and fully port a factory MHI 10.5, 16G turbine housing you could surpass the power potential of an unported, aftermarket 11.5 housing.
The metallurgical and casting integrity of the factory housings is such that they will allow some fairly extensive metal removal in the turbine inlet area, and the volute and scrolls as well.
FP, Blouch, and MAP cut the factory housings to accept some surprisigly large major and minor diameter turbine wheels when building Blacks and EF4's etc. FP showed that the 11.5 aftermarket housing has serious limitations.
If you were to radically and fully port a factory MHI 10.5, 16G turbine housing you could surpass the power potential of an unported, aftermarket 11.5 housing.
The metallurgical and casting integrity of the factory housings is such that they will allow some fairly extensive metal removal in the turbine inlet area, and the volute and scrolls as well.
FP, Blouch, and MAP cut the factory housings to accept some surprisigly large major and minor diameter turbine wheels when building Blacks and EF4's etc. FP showed that the 11.5 aftermarket housing has serious limitations.
Last edited by sparky; Jan 17, 2014 at 07:25 AM.
I know my old evo is still running w/ this housing. Its been on there over 2 years w/ a lot of abuse & miles on it. Care makes about the same power as it did w/ ported/coated 10.5...but IIRC it made about the same power on less boost w/ my combo. Id have to check with Aaron from ER on that. He has my before and after dyno #'s & most recent #'s that the current owner had dyno'd after he had some work done recently. Maybe I got one of the good housings...
That's two ppl on this page that said they got "a good Chinese knock off hotside". I think the point is none of them are good actually. You can use one and it might last for awhile but I feel like its a ticking time bomb waiting to melt and blow out at any second. When I rebuilt my IX turbo with a 20g wheel I considered a switch to a kinugawa hotside and two turbo shops that don't even deal in Evo's specifically told me that they wouldn't put my turbo on their balancing machines with that hotside on it. They said they would only deal with a stock one and refused to balance the turbo with a Chinese hotside on it. That's all I had to hear to make my mind up about it.
Yeah I'm not trying to be disrespectful and if you're happy with that turbo then more power to you, or possibly less power to you? Lol jk. To each their own and again I'm glad it has worked out for you. Personally I just wouldn't want to put a $900 turbo on a $35k-$40k car. It's like putting a pig on perfume, ya backwards on purpose.