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Old Mar 26, 2018, 04:41 PM
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That seems like installer error on the oil rings.
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This happened on the last two builds, and the only difference is this time it only happened to 3 of the 4 cylinders. Only difference I saw in the teardown measurements it that the good cylinder had less cylinder tapper, The other 3 had a strange taper that opened up towards the top of the bore, which is what lead me to think there was some strange wear from the rings.
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What are you revving this thing to?
Old Mar 26, 2018, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
What are you revving this thing to?

Because of the oil consumption I barely ran it. The whole 5000 miles were at waste gate pressure with the limiter set to 8000. Nothing worth getting excited about.
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It must have been assembled carelessly.
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Originally Posted by Redlimit835
Because of the oil consumption I barely ran it. The whole 5000 miles were at waste gate pressure with the limiter set to 8000. Nothing worth getting excited about.
What measurements did you get for cylinder taper?
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Something is wrong with assembly. Either oil rail end gap, PTW clearance, or the oil rings were installed incorrectly. That damage doesn't just "happen".
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The only cylinder without ring land damage was less than 0.5 thou, the other 3 were 0.8-1.1 thou tapper. Again, hardly anything outrageous, but over the specs we would expect for an engine at work. Still not a worthy explanation for the consumption.
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Something is wrong with assembly. Either oil rail end gap, PTW clearance, or the oil rings were installed incorrectly. That damage doesn't just "happen".
What is your expected oil rail end gap? Do you have an actual number? Curious what you would expect to see.
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IIRC Wiseco calls for ">.010" end gap on the oil rings.
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Ok, well according to Mike at Wiseco, they actually recommend >15 thou. And again not the problem with either of these builds.

Only thing we have come up with is the Asymmetric skirts combined with a notched bore not providing good enough alignment. So the talk is focused on maybe a 87 1400 HD with some adjustments and a custom ring pack so hopefully can get this thing squared away soon.
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Have you checked that the oil support rail that is used on these pistons was fitted the right way? If it wasn't it could make the exact same damage as it did.
http://blog.wiseco.com/oil-support-rails-how-they-work
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
Any updates?
Sorry its been awhile. It turns out the short block i bought from a member on here was junk, its noisy and consumes a lot of oil. He even tried to blame Kevin D's shop for the problem. Lesson learned.
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Originally Posted by xxthayxx
Sorry its been awhile. It turns out the short block i bought from a member on here was junk, its noisy and consumes a lot of oil. He even tried to blame Kevin D's shop for the problem. Lesson learned.
You should take it apart and rebuild it. Odds are the block itself is still good and you just need to reset PTW and ring gaps.... as long as the oil clearances were set properly.
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