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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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You should be buying all the parts from them and THEN take your car elsewhere. might as well take the discount if you can
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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He shouldn't buy anything. This wasn't his fault at all.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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-What can be done to an engine block to fix the scarring on the cylinder walls? Just boring out the cylinders to a bigger size, i.e. 2.1 or ?
Boring out to a larger size will fix the scarring as long as the marks are not to deep (which is unlikely). It will not change the displacement though. You would have to change around the block, crank, or both change the displacement.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Any update?
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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Sorry for lack of updates, I wanted to post more but felt the shop might be searching on here and reading my updates...

Currently I filed for $10,000 small claims court, I should have requested the maximum amount of 12,000 though since you can only get less than what you request. The court date is within the month and I'll let you guys know how that goes if it comes to it.

The original quote from the shop was 6800'ish, but after coming across some broken parts, missing parts, rusted parts (which were fine as is, but after removal you cant put them back on), and etc. I believe the cost for this is up to 8500, I will verify this tomorrow. The shop also noticed that my clutch didn't have much time left on it and it was the ACT heavy duty sport, so they wanted to know if I wanted it replaced also, $0 labor charges. I told them yes and I got a twin disk Exedy. This of course is on a separate bill not associated with my small claims court cost. This is a trusted shop, I will reveal the name of them later.

The shop's insurance called me and wants "To work something out with me" (a phrase that I have learned not to trust as of late), but first they want to send out their investigator/tech to create a report about my engine/timing belt incident, "So that it isn't he said/she said in the court room" (isn't it always a he said she said in the court room anyway?). They want me to give them the location of my vehicle and the shop's name...

At this point I don't think the insurance would really want "To work something out with me" if the amount is up so high. They would be better off taking their chances in court, right? I'm thinking that their only motive would be to investigate what I have going on, so they could lesson my evidence that I have to bring forth to the judge. Also they could just be feeling the waters concerning their chance at winning/losing in court. What do you think?

I am also slightly paranoid that the insurance would offer the shop money to say something against my case/lessen my chances, but that is just how I think. Which nowadays in some places, that is just how it is and it is scary to think about.

TL;DNR = I don't feel that I have anything to gain by letting them investigate the parts and at this point that engine is already out of the car.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:07 PM
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I'd tell them unless they are ready to offer you a cash settlement then there is no need. If its not part of their agenda they can **** off and you'll see them in court...might word it more tactfully but you get the idea.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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i agree with aaron.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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I'd tell them unless they are ready to offer you a cash settlement then there is no need. If its not part of their agenda they can **** off and you'll see them in court...might word it more tactfully but you get the idea.
I think I don't even need to reword what you said actually, thanks, I'll tell them exactly that hah.

I'm sure it's part of their agenda... "Based on the report findings" aka not going to happen.
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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I read it all. Hopefully it all ends up in your favor.
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 05:28 AM
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JohnBradley worded it exactly how you should tell them actually. Another point is that they already looked at your car, I don't see why they want to look at it again. I would not let them. That really sucks and I hope it all works out in your favor.
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Thelastdragon
Sorry for lack of updates, I wanted to post more but felt the shop might be searching on here and reading my updates...

Currently I filed for $10,000 small claims court, I should have requested the maximum amount of 12,000 though since you can only get less than what you request. The court date is within the month and I'll let you guys know how that goes if it comes to it.

The original quote from the shop was 6800'ish, but after coming across some broken parts, missing parts, rusted parts (which were fine as is, but after removal you cant put them back on), and etc. I believe the cost for this is up to 8500, I will verify this tomorrow. The shop also noticed that my clutch didn't have much time left on it and it was the ACT heavy duty sport, so they wanted to know if I wanted it replaced also, $0 labor charges. I told them yes and I got a twin disk Exedy. This of course is on a separate bill not associated with my small claims court cost. This is a trusted shop, I will reveal the name of them later.

The shop's insurance called me and wants "To work something out with me" (a phrase that I have learned not to trust as of late), but first they want to send out their investigator/tech to create a report about my engine/timing belt incident, "So that it isn't he said/she said in the court room" (isn't it always a he said she said in the court room anyway?). They want me to give them the location of my vehicle and the shop's name...

At this point I don't think the insurance would really want "To work something out with me" if the amount is up so high. They would be better off taking their chances in court, right? I'm thinking that their only motive would be to investigate what I have going on, so they could lesson my evidence that I have to bring forth to the judge. Also they could just be feeling the waters concerning their chance at winning/losing in court. What do you think?

I am also slightly paranoid that the insurance would offer the shop money to say something against my case/lessen my chances, but that is just how I think. Which nowadays in some places, that is just how it is and it is scary to think about.

TL;DNR = I don't feel that I have anything to gain by letting them investigate the parts and at this point that engine is already out of the car.
you are not being paranoid at all, like another poster said they have already tore down the motor and quote "inspected the car for the damage". dont let that investigator NEAR your car. stand your ground. good luck
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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**** these guys, take them to the cleaner. Typical stealership. Make sure to have them pay for your lost time, expense in procuring alternative transportation, etc etc
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Old Feb 1, 2013 | 02:34 PM
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I'm 2 hours from the South Park dealership... makes me want to pay them a visit.
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Delayed update:

I didn't even have to deal with what to tell insurance because my car was already fixed when I called the shop the next day and my original engine was already shipped out, so there was nothing for the insurance inspector to even look at.

The shop's insurance hired a lawyer and he offered me $4000... Thanks, but no thanks, bud.

Tomorrow is the big day, so wish me luck. If you have any words of advice feel free to share. So far I've been told only to refer to the judge as, "Your honor" or "Sir". To not talk when he is talking, to not interrupt the defense when they are speaking and to just wait until it is my turn to reply, and to keep things basic on a technical level unless the judge seems like he wants a further explanation.
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Dress professionally. Let your lawyer talk. If they are already offering 4k you know that they are at least okay with that. Be respectful to the judge.

Your job is to educate the judge as much as possible. Documentation wins in court.
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