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Old Jul 28, 2013, 11:48 AM
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I ran the gas tank down to ~1/4 full and drove around trying to see if the heat would build in the fuel system. After driving and 30 minutes of idle in ~85F weather I could see the ethanol content sensor start to fluctuate. The sensor is after the FPR so when flow is reduced through the sensor its readings start to jump around. At this point I put my hand on the fuel filter that is now located in the rear of the car and it is very warm.

I suspect the issue is the fuel pump putting heat into the gas and slowly raising the temperature. I have both the primary and secondary pumps hot wired through relays, which is something I changed when installing the Squash double pumper. With the stock fuel pump wiring and Haltech I had the pump running low voltage and kicking to high voltage at 5psi.

The primary Walbro 400 will go back on the stock wiring so it runs low voltage when cruising.

<5psi - low voltage (stock wiring)
>5psi - high voltage (stock wiring)
>12psi - secondary pump (hot wired through relay)
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How is the squash noise wise? What kind of hose are you using for the PCV system? Almost looks lke pex..
Old Jul 28, 2013, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Grimgrak
How is the squash noise wise?
I don't hear the pumps, but I also have 3.5" exhaust from turbo to back.


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What kind of hose are you using for the PCV system? Almost looks lke pex..
The hose in the box is aluminum tubing, which will run from the exhaust to the closed catch can. I was worried about the heat so I wanted something metallic. All other hose will be standard black rubber heater hose with -10AN pushlok fittings.
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Do you need a catch can if you're using a evac ?
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Originally Posted by 211ratsbud
Do you need a catch can if you're using a evac ?
I suppose I can route the fairclough -10an fitting from the back of the valve cover straight to the exhaust without a can. Since it is pulling crankcase pressure from the baffled area within the valve cover it may not be an issue. I want to avoid clouds of blue smoke during WOT.
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I'm betting you'll get clouds of smoke without the catchcan in there but I'm also betting you'll get clouds of blue smoke even with the catch can too. That was my experience anyway on an MR2.

Hope you have better luck then I did.
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UPDATE:
I have been very busy at work and home so not much time to tinker. I am just about finished with the new catch can setup and will be using both the turbo inlet and exhaust scavenge to eliminate block pressure. I will datalog results so I should be able to quantify the performance of both methods individually as well as together. All fittings are -10.


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Glad i'm rocking dual 12's, are those SS scrubbies to help prevent blue smoke from coming out?
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Glad i'm rocking dual 12's, are those SS scrubbies to help prevent blue smoke from coming out?
It is a $4 baffle system to keep oil particles from escaping.
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I should have the new PCV completed tomorrow. I only need to run the exhaust scavenge to finalize.

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No football tonight so I hooked up exhaust scavenge, but need to purchase a short piece of 5/8" hose to finish.




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This is an entertaining build Any updates?
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This is an entertaining build Any updates?
I put the car back on the dyno today....

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...l#post10977586
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Not EVO related, but I sold my 91 NSX to make room for a GTR. Out with the old and in with the new! I am somewhat sad to see her go because the NSX is such a beautiful car.

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UPDATE

I was driving my car on the highway today and took my exit and came to a stop at the stop sign. I immediately noticed the car would barely run and managed to limp home. I knew it was cylinder #3 because EGT's were low.

I swapped plugs...no change, swapped coils...no change, compression test...0psi

I pulled the valve cover and found the GSC valve spring snapped. I don't know if the valve is damaged. I have been running these springs for almost two years with the last 6 month being with the R2's.



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