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Old May 6, 2015 | 08:27 PM
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When you cranked the engine over 20 times was the fuel pump or injectors off? Did excessive fuel get into the combustion chamber and foul the plugs?

What do the plugs look like? If they are wet then at least you know the injectors are firing. Disconnect the fuel pump and crank the engine with the plugs out to clear the fuel out. Install new plugs

Are the cam sensors in the correct places? They can be accidentally swapped .

I would double check everything , if it gets too much fuel before being run it can effect the rings/ring seal.
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Old May 6, 2015 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Abacus
When you cranked the engine over 20 times was the fuel pump or injectors off? Did excessive fuel get into the combustion chamber and foul the plugs?

What do the plugs look like? If they are wet then at least you know the injectors are firing. Disconnect the fuel pump and crank the engine with the plugs out to clear the fuel out. Install new plugs

Are the cam sensors in the correct places? They can be accidentally swapped .

I would double check everything , if it gets too much fuel before being run it can effect the rings/ring seal.
I didn't mean I cranked it 20 times, but rather rotated it by hand 20 times.

When I do the compression test and pull the plugs I will inspect them. They are brand new Denso IKH24's.

I installed both brand new cam and mivec sensors at different times so they are in the correct order. I appreciate that idea too. Both are OEM

I appreciate the advice though man!
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Old May 6, 2015 | 09:48 PM
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sub'd - good luck.
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Old May 6, 2015 | 09:56 PM
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Plug wires in the right spots?
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Old May 6, 2015 | 10:42 PM
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@jetech38- yes the plug wires are correct. I appreciate the idea though man.



*DISCLAIMER- NOT WHAT THE CAR CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE, JUST A PICTURE I HAD WITH THE PLUG WIRES INSTALLED*

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Old May 6, 2015 | 11:57 PM
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I figured it was worth a second look. I rebuilt an H22 a few months back and ran into a no start problem. After a few days of on and off troubleshooting and puling out what remains of my hair, that was my issue.
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Old May 7, 2015 | 01:01 AM
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put stock plugs in. Those densos foul too easily.. I have had a similar problem when a car wouldnt start immedeately and then we couldnt start it at all... change to stock plugs cured that...
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Old May 7, 2015 | 04:49 AM
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injectors seized? Squirt a little carb cleaner into the intake manifold through a vacuum line and then try starting.
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Old May 7, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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Compression test- 0 across the board and no change when oil was added. Might have a valve train related issue.

I thought I bled the s**t out of my lifters but maybe I was wrong.
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Old May 7, 2015 | 11:49 AM
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what lifters are you using? I put gsc zero ticks in my new build a while back and i had 0 compression as well.
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Old May 7, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Stout
what lifters are you using? I put gsc zero ticks in my new build a while back and i had 0 compression as well.
Were you the one that had to have GSC overnight you another set? because if so I read your thread last night when I was searching on here for ideas. Anyways, I believe I have OEM lifters. I didn't see anything the led me to believe they were aftermarket when I put them in.
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Old May 7, 2015 | 04:38 PM
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Nope not I. This was last year. If you have 0 compression then all of your valves are most likely stuck open somehow. I predict lifters. Did you prime the motor before timing it.
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Old May 7, 2015 | 05:08 PM
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I would think a bigger issue causing zero compression. Even when I fully bled my lifters when I installed cams, my car started fine. It just sound like I filled the valve cover with bolts for about 2 minutes until the lifters pumped up.
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Old May 7, 2015 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Stout
Nope not I. This was last year. If you have 0 compression then all of your valves are most likely stuck open somehow. I predict lifters. Did you prime the motor before timing it.
Oh lol, my bad. Anyways, someone had the same issue with GSC lifters as you did. I'm completely clueless as to what it could be. I'm thinking something drivetrain related because I read if you add oil when doing a compression test and the compression goes up it's rings, and if nothing changes then it's valve train related. I didn't prime the motor before timing it.

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I would think a bigger issue causing zero compression. Even when I fully bled my lifters when I installed cams, my car started fine. It just sound like I filled the valve cover with bolts for about 2 minutes until the lifters pumped up.
Have any ideas as to what you'd think it would be? I thought I got all all the oil that would come out of the lifters when I bled mine.
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Old May 7, 2015 | 06:16 PM
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Big no no. Always prime the oil pump. Zero compression would mean no rings or no valves. Lol. Even with bent valves you'd get some compression. Do a leak down test. Better yet. Take a video of the car cranking over.
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