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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by revhappy
Do you have a dyno chart and list of other mods?
It is my car he is tuning. Here is the graph on E85. On 93 Oct the VD showed 376 HP and I did 114mph in the 1/4 mile with that tune of 26 falling to 24psi at the top.

The go fast mod list of mods on my car are:
FP 71 HTA with 84mm cover (not ported at all, stock 10.5cm exhaust housing)
Wally 255 pump
3 bar boost solenoid
RC 1200cc's
2.75 Espelir downpipe
Espelir 3" catback
3" testpipe
HKS 264/264
Cheapie open air filter
FP 84mm intake hose
Mishimoto lower IC pipe
ARP Head studs




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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 01:26 PM
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Here is a log:

http://datazap.me/u/razorlab/scott-h...-11&zoom=11-65

The above chart is the last couple pulls we did. It's obviously running too lean up top so I believe the pump is losing pressure. The tune before I think made around 470.

We are currently detuning it to bring the AFR back inline, drop the IDC's some and manage the torque a bit.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 01:27 PM
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Nice can not wait to see the result.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KFC-AWD
It is my car he is tuning. Here is the graph on E85. On 93 Oct the VD showed 376 HP and I did 114mph in the 1/4 mile with that tune of 26 falling to 24psi at the top.

The go fast mod list of mods on my car are:
FP 71 HTA with 84mm cover (not ported at all, stock 10.5cm exhaust housing)
Wally 255 pump

3 bar boost solenoid
RC 1200cc's
2.75 Espelir downpipe
Espelir 3" catback
3" testpipe
HKS 264/264
Cheapie open air filter
FP 84mm intake hose



Now can I downgrade from my green? lol.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 01:34 PM
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Now can I downgrade from my green? lol.
I had a OG Green on my Evo 8 and this 71HTA is by far better.

It's a pretty amazing turbo for just being a compressor upgrade.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KFC-AWD
It is my car he is tuning. Here is the graph on E85. On 93 Oct the VD showed 376 HP and I did 114mph in the 1/4 mile with that tune of 26 falling to 24psi at the top.

The go fast mod list of mods on my car are:
FP 71 HTA with 84mm cover (not ported at all, stock 10.5cm exhaust housing)
Wally 255 pump
3 bar boost solenoid
RC 1200cc's
2.75 Espelir downpipe
Espelir 3" catback
3" testpipe
HKS 264/264
Cheapie open air filter
FP 84mm intake hose



Stock block I assume? I need to get a anti surge cover asap
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by e_kobz
Stock block I assume? I need to get a anti surge cover asap
Yup, stock, at 69k miles. Oops I also have ARP Head studs and lower IC pipe. Gotta edit that mod list.
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by revhappy
I thought with the addition of all this torque (HTA 71, E85, possibly bigger cams) on the stock block it'd be necessary. Concerned about rod bearing failure.
If you an to run a lot of boost and raise cylinder pressured then yeah. I ran 30psi on stock head bolts and didn't have the head lift. Individual experiences may vary, though.

Originally Posted by razorlab
E85.

For comparison, It made 370 whp on 93 oct. Yes we are detuning it a tad to keep it in low 90 IDC and bring down some of the early torque.

I'm trying to get the owner to post in this thread for full mod list but from memory:

71HTA, 264 HKS cams, turboback, Wally 255, RC 1200cc.

I didn't post to brag about the numbers, only to share IDC data. I don't really care about numbers anymore.
Wow. I have the same mods but only did 350whp on 91 and 415whp, or so, on e85.
Edit: @ 27psi tapering to 23psi.
not necessarily caring about numbers.. but you gotta wonder why two cars, with the same mods, both using VD have such drastically different numbers.
that torque would absolutely destroy my engine and trans, though.

and which correction factor are you using? i've been on the VD correction of 1.0, but DynoJet numbers (1.09) look more like yours.

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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
I had a OG Green on my Evo 8 and this 71HTA is by far better.

It's a pretty amazing turbo for just being a compressor upgrade.
I think I have the hta green, does the above statement still apply?

Looking for similar power with much better spool and transient response.

See post 12:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-engine-turbo-drivetrain/687052-fp-green-do-i-have.html#post11168496
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
I think I have the hta green, does the above statement still apply?

Looking for similar power with much better spool and transient response.

See post 12:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...l#post11168496
I would consider the Blouch 1.0 XTR

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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
I think I have the hta green, does the above statement still apply?

Looking for similar power with much better spool and transient response.

See post 12:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...l#post11168496
it it matters, then we can just trade
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by e_kobz
Stock block I assume? I need to get a anti surge cover asap
KFC - Would you happen to have a current pump gas VD graph?

As crazy as it may sound, I'm thinking of downgrading from my hta green to the 71HTA, reason being I only DD my car, almost never race it, so 99% of the time I'm below 6k.

Currently getting 300ftlbs at the wheels at 4k, so having +50-70ftlbs at 4k would be great for street driving....

Am I crazy for thinking this way
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
KFC - Would you happen to have a current pump gas VD graph?

As crazy as it may sound, I'm thinking of downgrading from my hta green to the 71HTA, reason being I only DD my car, almost never race it, so 99% of the time I'm below 6k.

Currently getting 300ftlbs at the wheels at 4k, so having +50-70ftlbs at 4k would be great for street driving....

Am I crazy for thinking this way
No sir, it's a ton of fun. If i didn't track my car, no WAY would i be getting rid of mine. No way.
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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 07:44 AM
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Sure, here is the graph on 93 octane. Also included the graph with both 93oct vs E85 with smoothing at 2.








Originally Posted by tsitalon1
KFC - Would you happen to have a current pump gas VD graph?

As crazy as it may sound, I'm thinking of downgrading from my hta green to the 71HTA, reason being I only DD my car, almost never race it, so 99% of the time I'm below 6k.

Currently getting 300ftlbs at the wheels at 4k, so having +50-70ftlbs at 4k would be great for street driving....

Am I crazy for thinking this way

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Old Feb 26, 2016 | 08:32 AM
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Man, I wish CA had 93 oct....
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