im using jun 272/s in my evo very good

and 264s and 265s are cool specially piper

 

Wow, good job. You are so worthy of me bowing down to now because you had someone else build your motor. Oh I can't forget the fact that you've been a member of EvoM since August of 2002 but have only made 25 posts since then. And since you've been such an outstanding veteran member perhaps you would've realized that there a lot of new members here everyday who don't know anything about HKS, Jun or Piper. So spitting out some B.S. like "HKS suck" without any claims does absolutely nothing to help others. But I can see that you are plenty selfish enough to not care so enjoy your "Built" motor.

Know more about Evos than I ever will? Ok GOD...what a ****tard.

 

whatever biatch


i hardly come on here coz i spend more time on the uk and europe lancer register

and yes uk is the home of the fastest evos in the world

and all cams have been tested

hks cams are truly ****


come to the lancer register and see how many sold their hks and opted for jun or piper


aint worth the money

 

Moses, How much more power do you guys see over the HKS cams on stock blocks and heads w/ Piper, JUN or Tomei?

 

I still haven't seen any proof of your claims. I say that Palmolive sucks and Dawn is much better...but what the hell does that tell anyone else?

Fastest Evo's in the world? Maybe you should look into the Grand Cayman Islands...or Japan. I spent 3 years living in England so don't bother trying to convince me what you have and don't have.

 

cirrusley lol u guys only know how to drive straight

uk and europe are the king of evos long established


my mate scot lives in cayman islands



jj dude give me a few days mate will try to find u the testers and threads



jj simon made 806 bhp he was using jun cams at the time now changed to piper

and myself made 611 bhp and over 550 ft torque not 507 as i previously thought with jun cams , 611 bhp at 1.7 bar with 2.5 back pressure i lost alot of power coz of my housing i couldnt get a bigger one for the gt3240 too much restriction coz of my stroker (2.3) 2.2 would have been fine and i was using 1600 cc injectors not good again lost power so im going down to 1200cc


i dont know what rc are using but they touched 821 bhp and 690 ft torque wow

then theirs tony he is over 550 bhp on a 2 litre and shauns will be a 800 bhp monster and chris over 700

and keiths over 600 etc and plenty of others,

also speak to claude the mod here, he is like a bros to me, he will remember the cam arguements he is a jun man like myself

 

and currisley we dont need to rely on nos to get over 700 bhp we do it without it

 

http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...cams+piper+hks

here and theirs plenty of more and how many uk boys sold their hks cams at cheap prices and still it was hard for them to sell them second hand

alot of them now use piper and jun only

only the beginners use hks

 

bhp is horsepower at the crank, btw, not at the wheels as is commonly measured over here.

I'm not sure why every post by this guy has to result in a US vs UK battle, but hell, I'll play along.

Anyway, the US has had at least one Evo that I know of in the 9s. You can claim that the UK has the fastest Evos, but putting a dyno plot on the table next to another dyno plot and making "vroom" noises doesn't really count as racing. Til you run the time...

So, tell me, did you run back to back tests on the same vehicle to determine that piper cams are the best? How much of a difference are we talking?

AMS did a cam test a while back and showed that the JUN stage 3 cams for DSMs were not a good matchup for their 16G. They slowed down spool and decreased the midrange torque significantly without increasing top end torque over the HKS 272s.

http://www.automotosports.com/cam_test.asp
http://www.automotosports.com/HKS%20...%20Stg%203.JPG

Perhaps with a larger turbo, they would make a difference. But there is no "one-cam-fits-all" solution.

 

shape, mate you seem a cool person i like the way u post, all i did was give my reaction and rightly so its been tested and i told the truth but that other guy spoke in a bad manner to me, i didnt attack anyone just gave my view and the uk view on hks cams and this guy provoked me and i gave him my words and thats why it went into a uk and usa debate

and also mate, in the usa they luv nos, nos is a new thing in the uk, all cars here most have standard gearbox's only this yr some of the evos fitted dogbox;s only coz they tune their cars so they can use them for work, track and also drag , usa is a drag racing country, uk is a track country, after fast and the furious drag racing really took off and these cars in the real world will screw u.s.a evo's on track, road and country rds and its a cold country we dont have your weather and also not your tarmac, in the usa these drag strips are established and have been for yrs, u ever see the uk drag strips their pathetic compared to the u.s ones mate , these same uk cars in the usa will be doing 9 sec quarter miles easily


simon does 10.1. 10.7 and 10.89's on his standard shotpeened gearbox and near full weight

rc done a 10.93 in their first run again on standard gearbox

fit a dogbox to these 2 cars most def they will be in the 9's


and if u ask the mlr regulars here , they will tell u, their was a time most guys were selling their hks cams they flooded the parts for sale section and it was sad they couldnt get the money they wanted coz ,others went for piper which seems the best and jun which is aggressive.


me myself deal with hks , jun, piper so i wont just say it coz i hate it, i tell the truth coz it is

maybe it worked for u guys on the 16g but in the uk standard evo 6 cams were in some cases better than the hks ones

 

Wow, HKS cams, even just 264s, seriously wake up a US Evo VIII. I can't imagine that the stock cams are different between the two countries on the same car.

 

If you don't mind slightly rough idle too much, go 272 for both, otherwise 264i/272e.

 

shape mate i said in some evos not all it has proven that standard ones were better than hks ones ,but not all
and sorry their seems a confusion

they were tested on evo 5's and 6's

u didnt get them their as im told

evo 8 was the first evo their wasnt it except for the evo 1 to 3 and they were tested on the evo 7's too not much difference between that and the 8

piper still came tops but evo 6 and 5 cams standard ones are quiet good , dont know how different the evo 8 ones are

cheers

 

here is daves graph

old graph that is

with piper cams and his turbo is based on a standard evo turbo but bigger and good spool up and a champion of turbos good for a car that wants up to 460 bhp and loadsa torque


it just fits direct onto your manifold and kit no probs at all


i will try to get my graph for u guy s


500 bhp just over 4000 revs i think then 610 bhp with alot of restriction and back pressure and injectors made me loose power, but still a very mad setup its awesome

 

You got a bad manner from me because when you post something like "HKS are ****" then all you do is ask for debate. Sorry you took offense but stating your view to a board with thousands of members does absolutely no good without any kind of back up. Just becuase there are 10 second Evo's in the UK does not automatically make HKS the faulty product. There are numerous tuners here in the states that are using HKS without any problems. Trying to point the finger at HKS saying they are bad compared to others without a dyno plot is just assinine.

American's love NOS? When is the last time you've ran on a track her in the good ole' U.S. of A.? I spent many weekends at Santa Pod Raceway (in East Anglia, UK) and saw way more cars blowing Nitrous than I have here on the East Coast. And the quality of the track there IN ENGLAND was top notch.

Oh and one more thing....do you think it's coincidence that the UK may have faster Evo's than the US? England has had Evo's on it's soil for over 10 years. We just got them last year. Go figure that one out genius.