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HKS CAMS 272i/264e or 264i/272e?

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Old May 11, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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lol wrong again nos is a new thing here, not many used to use it till fast and the furious came out

first of all most insurance companies in the uk dont touch cars with nos


and nope backup theirs plenty

hks all their cams were tested against the best on the market

and it did fail

if u dont wanna believe that thats your choice, not mines and freedom of speech, im allowed to give my view and my view is hks cams are ****,, so saddam hussain go and dictate elsewhere
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Old May 11, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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So now you're calling me a liar? Hmm...should I dig up my pictures from late 99 through 2000? I'm sure I can find few cars on there from the UK that had Nitrous (not NOS) installed. Insurance or no, they were there so thank you for accepting my freedom of speech.

I never said I disbelieved you...I asked for you to post proof of what you are claiming. But obiously the lack of sunshine in your country has affected your reading skills.

Haha...Saddam Hussein...oh man...I can't breathe I'm laughing so hard....oh man...you kill me.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 01:51 AM
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I would go with the 272/264 setup. The reason is increasing velocity on the exhaust side to spool the turbos faster. The use of a larger AR would be very nice with such a setup because u will still obtain the top end u want and generate alot of air in the compressor to be use as much as you can (head restriction will limit u here) on the intake side (272). I just don’t see the point of using a smaller intake duration instead of exhaust duration on a turbo car. If u told me the setup was a Supercharger then I would say go with a smaller intake duration than exhaust because u generate air by the belt not the exhaust gases and u don’t care about velocity on the exhaust side. In my opinion Velocity is more important than Volume in a turbo car. If u are getting a high EGT then there are a lot of other reasons (Fuel, Turbo size, AR size, etc…) you should be looking at, not because u have a 272/264 cam. It has been proven on V8's that smaller exhaust durations than intake is the way to go with a turbo setup. Keep in mind V8’s don’t need a cam with smaller exhaust duration to increase Velocity because they have 8 cylinders to spool up the turbo or turbos, but a reverse split cam did still proves better spool up, and power curve. U can call any cam company and they will tell u the same. As someone said before there is no right or wrong answer here. It all depends on what u want and what’s your setup going to be, but on a turbo car I would go with a larger intake duration than exhaust. I’m going to try to ask an engineer to calculate which would be better to move a blade in a fixed circle diameter faster… Velocity or Volume and I will see what he says…. If anyone who is an engineer here please feel free to answer this question. Good luck.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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cirrusly

u seem like a lil kid , r u or maybe a wannabe
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Old May 12, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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A year younger than you bud...what's the problem? Still don't see your dyno plots. Or is just so hard for you to admit you spouted off at the mouth (or fingers in this case) and now you can't even provide back up?
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Old May 12, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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theirs plenty of backup


but i dont entertain trolls

and hks is **** the cams that is
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Old May 12, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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i agree, i had HKS cams with a turbo upgrade, and HKS failed, sorry to say, not picking sides, just my experiences. I now have Jun and i am more than happy.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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agreed, Al is the only one that tested them both and he said JUN are way way better than HKS, they make more power but they also require springs, even the 264's

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Old May 12, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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Here is my opinion on cams. For a stock motor w/ stock turbo the HKS cams perform fine when compared to JUN, Piper,Tomei, and so on. Only when a bigger turbo is installed will the benefits of the big lift cams be seen over the HKS. If you have lots of motor work you would probably see gains too.
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Old May 12, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jj_008
Here is my opinion on cams. For a stock motor w/ stock turbo the HKS cams perform fine when compared to JUN, Piper,Tomei, and so on. Only when a bigger turbo is installed will the benefits of the big lift cams be seen over the HKS. If you have lots of motor work you would probably see gains too.

perfectly worded

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Old May 12, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by moses evo
theirs plenty of backup


but i dont entertain trolls

and hks is **** the cams that is

That's funny...troll "i.e. Someone who makes generalized posts in web forums to disrupt or otherwise mislead it's readers".

Yup that's me alright...don't worry about entertaining me I can do my own research. But there are a couple thousand other people here who might actually benifit from your knolwedge. But apparantly you're too selfish to understand that. So go on with your big bad Evo's that dominate the world and every other car. If I didn't know better I'd swear you were a Brit.
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Old May 13, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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lol u are so sad u are the one with the problem not me

u are like a divorced wife who doesnt stop nagging her ex and stalking him haha

anyone want info send me a message i will help u guys out


i aint selfish i have a big heart

as i said i deal with tuning parts ,.hks, jun and piper

if i was telling bullsh1t i would have said hks cams were good if i wanna sell them but no i tell it the way it is
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Old May 17, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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so, if i were to want something like 300 whp, would hks cams be fine?
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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save the money dude and raise the boost to 1.2 and u will get 300 bhp

or get a mappable ecu and sort the fuelling out and raise the boost to 1.5 or 1.6 u will get over 350 bhp and then do cam works and other stuff and do get a clutch to suit
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Old May 20, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by low_evo
i agree, i had HKS cams with a turbo upgrade, and HKS failed, sorry to say, not picking sides, just my experiences. I now have Jun and i am more than happy.
What the hell does "failed" mean?!

If you dyno the same exact car with HKS and then JUN cams on it, with the same tune, same what is the difference in torque and power. What about airflow? Give us numbers, not quotes like "they failed."

Back up your claims with facts. I posted an entire dyno test with the results of something like 7 different cam combinations for Christ's sake!

Oh yeah, butt dynos don't count.
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