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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by 93civEJ1


yes, i take it you saw the same test results i did with the vacuum...hehe.
How about a link?? I want to see this as well.


Ahh nevermind. Found it on google.

For those that are interested. Here is the link.

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/fil...t/2/index.html
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by MrBubbler
one of the cleanest filters tested was the apexi it also made more hp then others also so at this point you have spent 30k for a car you should put cheap parts on it.
First of all, I don't sell parts for HKS and I am a pure customer.

Second, the vacuum test was very well done. Very interesting results!

Third, the HKS filter used in the test was the mega flow filter. The one on the Racing Suction is a different foam element. I can literally see the holes on the green foam. The RS foam is different. I would like to see the test on the yellow foam.

Fourth, one cannot generalize to say that someone is putting cheap parts in a 30K car, there is more to it than that. Just because HKS sells a poorer performing filter, doesn't necessarily mean all HKS stuff is cheap. See point number three...

Thanks for the link. Very informative!

Brent
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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How's your car running?

I plan on installing my RS kit but still concerned with power loss. Have you experience any power loss in the mid range. Most people here are complaining with the use of K&N's Typoon. They get some kind of power loss. Thanks a lot if you can reply.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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I posted and said I picked up 9 whp with mine on a Mustang Dyno of that helps you out any.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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Is that without remapping the ECU? What I want to know is, will the HKS RS kit give you 9 whp without remapping the ECU?
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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All I did was install the intake and reset the ECU. If your wondering if I have a reflashed ECU, then.....no.

I picked up 9 whp from the last time I dynoed my car with just a HKS dp and carbon-ti cat back. This was on a Mustang dyno that tends to put down lower numbers as to a DynoJet. So I more than likely picked up a few more if it was done of a DynoJet.
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Corey

I picked up 9 whp from the last time I dynoed my car with just a HKS dp and carbon-ti cat back. This was on a Mustang dyno that tends to put down lower numbers as to a DynoJet. So I more than likely picked up a few more if it was done of a DynoJet.
Hi Corey,

Any chance you can share the total HP gains from the HKS intake PLUS the DP and the cat back exhaust? I am about to add the DP, high-flow cat, and cat-back exhaust so I am curious to see what gains I will be getting without ECU tuning. Thanks!

BTW, I was worried that the HKS kit would cause idle problems but it didn't. I think it's because the HKS kit does not change the Mass Air Sensor section and the filter is right next to the MAS, so at idle, the configuration is close to stock form.

Brent
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Not sure what the total gains were from stock cause I never dynoed it when it was stock.

According to the place where I dynoed my car, they said that the Mustang dyno's numbers are about 20% lower than a DynoJet. On their Dyno, my car made 230whp - 233trq with RS intake, HKS downpipe, and the Carbon-Ti cat back. I'm still using the stock cat. Adding the 20% lose is about 46hp. So that would put my car at about 276whp and about 280trq.

Not sure if those munbers are right, but I'd say they are pretty close to what the car is putting down.
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by Corey
Not sure what the total gains were from stock cause I never dynoed it when it was stock.

According to the place where I dynoed my car, they said that the Mustang dyno's numbers are about 20% lower than a DynoJet. On their Dyno, my car made 230whp - 233trq with RS intake, HKS downpipe, and the Carbon-Ti cat back. I'm still using the stock cat. Adding the 20% lose is about 46hp. So that would put my car at about 276whp and about 280trq.

Not sure if those munbers are right, but I'd say they are pretty close to what the car is putting down.
How did you get the 9HP figure then for the HKS intake alone? I am just curious...

Brent
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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Because I dynoed my car a while back with just the downpipe and cat back on it. Then about 3 weeks ago I dynoed it with those parts and the RS intake and there was a 9 hp gain from the last time I did it.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by Corey
Because I dynoed my car a while back with just the downpipe and cat back on it. Then about 3 weeks ago I dynoed it with those parts and the RS intake and there was a 9 hp gain from the last time I did it.
Hi Corey,

Thanks a lot for your patience and your explanation. I wanted to get a feel of how much HP gain the intake gets by itself so your explanation helps a lot. I probably would venture to say that your DP and catback helped you pull more out of the intake than if it was just an intake mod on a stock exhaust. But that is still a pretty good improvement WITHOUT ECU tuning!!!

I really wish that you had did a baseline dyno so we could see what one would be getting with these mods straight up without the magic of ECU tuning. I'd rather get the info from a fellow driver than from a magazine or a vendor - it's more pure . Thanks a lot!

PS I can't believe it - I hijacked my own thread...

Brent
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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No problem man. That is what we are all here to do. We are suppose to help each other out.

I wish I had a baseline to, but at the time I didn't know of a AWD dyno around me while my car was stock.

I will agree that a intake will do better on a car that already has some mods done to it than a stock car.

Good Luck.

PS.....the only problem I've had so far with my intake is getting it wet one tie while washing my car at a self serve car wash. Don't spray around the hood vent too much. It caused my sensor to get wet and made my car buck til it dryed off. I guess I got kinda lucky. Now I have a towel with me all the time just to put on top of it for safe measures.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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I would like to get an Apexi Power Intake Filter but dont know who sels it and what intake pipes work with it. Does the bushur racing intake pipe work with this filter cone?

Thanx
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by jemm
You may want to create a heat shield and refit the intake duct....

The aerodynamics as far as the inlet is concerned, are designed around that scoop... don't get rid of it.

also if you live in a dusty area ... monitor the HKS's filtration .. Its one of the poorest filtering solutions available!

jemm did you make that heat shield or purchased it from somewhere?
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