Ball Bearing Turbo Conversions
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Hmm.. here's another thought.. I came across 10.5 turbine housings.. couple that with a 9.8ti turbocharger cartridge and you have the TME turbo...
Last edited by MalibuJack; Jul 16, 2004 at 09:16 AM.
Originally Posted by EVOeight
Originally Posted by MalibuJack
For the rest of you guys, the Ti turbo (Even the 9.8) is amazing, couple that with BB's and you have super low end power, similar or better upper range power.. couple that with lowering restrictions everywhere (head, intake, upgraded maf, chamfering the throttlebody) and you'll make close to the power some of the kits are making, but you'll be making a flat power curve from 2400rpm through redline..
Food for thought.. PLUS its likely you can sneak a stock turbo upgrade like this into restricted class racing that allows only limited modifications. I dunno about you, but I want to be able to exit turns under boost, and not wait for spool..
For the rest of you guys, the Ti turbo (Even the 9.8) is amazing, couple that with BB's and you have super low end power, similar or better upper range power.. couple that with lowering restrictions everywhere (head, intake, upgraded maf, chamfering the throttlebody) and you'll make close to the power some of the kits are making, but you'll be making a flat power curve from 2400rpm through redline..
Food for thought.. PLUS its likely you can sneak a stock turbo upgrade like this into restricted class racing that allows only limited modifications. I dunno about you, but I want to be able to exit turns under boost, and not wait for spool..
...well put!
Last edited by Zeus; Jul 16, 2004 at 10:13 AM.
Originally Posted by MalibuJack
Yep, I was already in contact with them recently, they were not willing to give me any information since their working on a core exchange turbo upgrade for the Evo8 that will be available (hopefully) by the end of the month..
Originally Posted by EVOeight
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It seems like most of these turbo upgrades are geared at making more horsepower. I am happy with the top-end power of my EVO but I hate the low-end torque (or lack of). I want faster spool more than increased top-end potential. I think the ball bearing titanium turbo is just what I have been wanting!
Yep, it would be so sweet if we had instant power when we step on the gas and slightly more top end. I'm not a hardcore drag racer. Corner exit speeds are more fun to me. Imagine if we can exit corners like those WRC rally cars and kick our tails out by having so much torque!
You know I really think what you guys are doing is great. However, this is too much work and money for such no big big reason. I mean my turbo is full spool around 3800 to 3900 rpm and I get some good psi number about 15 psi at 3400~3500 rpm. I know that some of you guys wants the best spool ever but our engines are small and the best way is to get a stroker kit. $1700 is too much money just for upgrading your turbo.
remember guys i am not bashing or picking a fight. I wish if i can see that turbo as well. but tooo much $$$
remember guys i am not bashing or picking a fight. I wish if i can see that turbo as well. but tooo much $$$
For those of us looking for all around drivability, its a HUGE advantage.. Although I like all of the aftermarket turbo setups, I'm not looking to make high RPM launches, or upshifting and downshifting to keep the revs over 3000rpm (though its not difficult in this car)
However.. anyone with a aftermarket turbo will be SOL if your out on the road and experience a problem, not to mention several years down the road when you may no longer have access to some of the kit parts.
I can't deny there's great power to be made in puttin on a big turbo.. Its the same argument that the big block guys give the small block guys in an attempt to explain why they should get a big block..
The drag strip or dyno are two places I will likely rarely if ever spend time at.. Its all about driving the car in turns, on a track or on the street.. at that point your advantage is how you deliver the power.
You definitely went in the right direction with your upgrade, and its likely the next step I would take after I am done experimenting with this turbo.. But I'd gladly give up the 70 or so HP on pump gas at high RPM to pick up spool full boost at 2500rpm with a flat torque curve through redline..
also, your right $1700 is too much money.. However, prior to the american manufacturers getting into the Evo turbo kit gain, $5000 was the common price for an Evo turbo upgrade.. So you'll see options become available for less..
And yes, the stroker kit is also an option.. In my case I'm going with both..
However.. anyone with a aftermarket turbo will be SOL if your out on the road and experience a problem, not to mention several years down the road when you may no longer have access to some of the kit parts.
I can't deny there's great power to be made in puttin on a big turbo.. Its the same argument that the big block guys give the small block guys in an attempt to explain why they should get a big block..
The drag strip or dyno are two places I will likely rarely if ever spend time at.. Its all about driving the car in turns, on a track or on the street.. at that point your advantage is how you deliver the power.
You definitely went in the right direction with your upgrade, and its likely the next step I would take after I am done experimenting with this turbo.. But I'd gladly give up the 70 or so HP on pump gas at high RPM to pick up spool full boost at 2500rpm with a flat torque curve through redline..
also, your right $1700 is too much money.. However, prior to the american manufacturers getting into the Evo turbo kit gain, $5000 was the common price for an Evo turbo upgrade.. So you'll see options become available for less..
And yes, the stroker kit is also an option.. In my case I'm going with both..
Originally Posted by MalibuJack
For those of us looking for all around drivability, its a HUGE advantage.. Although I like all of the aftermarket turbo setups, I'm not looking to make high RPM launches, or upshifting and downshifting to keep the revs over 3000rpm (though its not difficult in this car)
However.. anyone with a aftermarket turbo will be SOL if your out on the road and experience a problem, not to mention several years down the road when you may no longer have access to some of the kit parts.
I can't deny there's great power to be made in puttin on a big turbo.. Its the same argument that the big block guys give the small block guys in an attempt to explain why they should get a big block..
The drag strip or dyno are two places I will likely rarely if ever spend time at.. Its all about driving the car in turns, on a track or on the street.. at that point your advantage is how you deliver the power.
You definitely went in the right direction with your upgrade, and its likely the next step I would take after I am done experimenting with this turbo.. But I'd gladly give up the 70 or so HP on pump gas at high RPM to pick up spool full boost at 2500rpm with a flat torque curve through redline..
also, your right $1700 is too much money.. However, prior to the american manufacturers getting into the Evo turbo kit gain, $5000 was the common price for an Evo turbo upgrade.. So you'll see options become available for less..
And yes, the stroker kit is also an option.. In my case I'm going with both..
However.. anyone with a aftermarket turbo will be SOL if your out on the road and experience a problem, not to mention several years down the road when you may no longer have access to some of the kit parts.
I can't deny there's great power to be made in puttin on a big turbo.. Its the same argument that the big block guys give the small block guys in an attempt to explain why they should get a big block..
The drag strip or dyno are two places I will likely rarely if ever spend time at.. Its all about driving the car in turns, on a track or on the street.. at that point your advantage is how you deliver the power.
You definitely went in the right direction with your upgrade, and its likely the next step I would take after I am done experimenting with this turbo.. But I'd gladly give up the 70 or so HP on pump gas at high RPM to pick up spool full boost at 2500rpm with a flat torque curve through redline..
also, your right $1700 is too much money.. However, prior to the american manufacturers getting into the Evo turbo kit gain, $5000 was the common price for an Evo turbo upgrade.. So you'll see options become available for less..
And yes, the stroker kit is also an option.. In my case I'm going with both..
$1700 is a bit steep, but consider essex's normal price OR their price for the conversion+shipping, this is the cheapest price in the US right now. Bang for the buck, it's kind of questionable...but I don't have a machine shop, so whatayagonnado...
And yeah tc.com is working with buschur
Originally Posted by MalibuJack
For those of us looking for all around drivability, its a HUGE advantage.. Although I like all of the aftermarket turbo setups, I'm not looking to make high RPM launches, or upshifting and downshifting to keep the revs over 3000rpm (though its not difficult in this car)
However.. anyone with a aftermarket turbo will be SOL if your out on the road and experience a problem, not to mention several years down the road when you may no longer have access to some of the kit parts.
I can't deny there's great power to be made in puttin on a big turbo.. Its the same argument that the big block guys give the small block guys in an attempt to explain why they should get a big block..
The drag strip or dyno are two places I will likely rarely if ever spend time at.. Its all about driving the car in turns, on a track or on the street.. at that point your advantage is how you deliver the power.
You definitely went in the right direction with your upgrade, and its likely the next step I would take after I am done experimenting with this turbo.. But I'd gladly give up the 70 or so HP on pump gas at high RPM to pick up spool full boost at 2500rpm with a flat torque curve through redline..
also, your right $1700 is too much money.. However, prior to the american manufacturers getting into the Evo turbo kit gain, $5000 was the common price for an Evo turbo upgrade.. So you'll see options become available for less..
And yes, the stroker kit is also an option.. In my case I'm going with both..
However.. anyone with a aftermarket turbo will be SOL if your out on the road and experience a problem, not to mention several years down the road when you may no longer have access to some of the kit parts.
I can't deny there's great power to be made in puttin on a big turbo.. Its the same argument that the big block guys give the small block guys in an attempt to explain why they should get a big block..
The drag strip or dyno are two places I will likely rarely if ever spend time at.. Its all about driving the car in turns, on a track or on the street.. at that point your advantage is how you deliver the power.
You definitely went in the right direction with your upgrade, and its likely the next step I would take after I am done experimenting with this turbo.. But I'd gladly give up the 70 or so HP on pump gas at high RPM to pick up spool full boost at 2500rpm with a flat torque curve through redline..
also, your right $1700 is too much money.. However, prior to the american manufacturers getting into the Evo turbo kit gain, $5000 was the common price for an Evo turbo upgrade.. So you'll see options become available for less..
And yes, the stroker kit is also an option.. In my case I'm going with both..
damn, you all are cheap! Ok, how about a Tommy Makinen Edition spec td05hra 15gk2 10.5t bb turbo? Think I'm playing???? I can make it if you can dream it! Man does that sound stupid 
