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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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I really wish you would have given Al another shot at tuning the car now that it has the correct parts on it. I believe the only additional power you will get, if any, is going to be from all the matching parts we sent you to get the car up and running correctly.

Al made 444 whp with the flash and our Stage 4 on another customers car last night at Pruven. Bone stock internals, no port work. The power could have been made on your car too, if it would have had all the matching parts on it when he dyno'd it.

Oh well, good luck.

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p.s. Al was the first guy in this country to re-flash the EVO ECU's.

Dave has a point... Al has now made numerous 440+WHP passes on stock motors besides camshafts and head studs on the BR Kits as well as the AMS kits.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Al, is very good tuner. I believe in him and what he does. I have haven't had much experience with Turbo trix, but I am sure they are very good at the flash as well. I am sure the two dyno are reading differently.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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I say let me borrow all your kits and we test them all on my car.. this should be fun...LOL
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
RNR,
I would have gladly sent the customer the MAPS, problem was he needed the maps so you could do the tuning, we were not willing to send them to him FOR YOU. We had actually asked him to go to Road Race Engineering and get the install done. For one reason or another he decided he didn't want to go there and went to your "shop" instead. When he called and said you guys needed the map to get the car running Tym and myself weren't comfortable sending them to "YOU".

Every single EMS we sell we do free support on. Had this customer wanted to do the tuning himself or at any other shop other than YOURS he would have gotten all the maps he ever wanted.

You can tell what a slime you are just from the fact that the guy has always been a happy customer of ours, had all of the Stages from us and was tickled with them. He comes to you for an install and you talk your ignorant **** and end up persueding him into getting your turbo kit instead. You forget that we were responsible for getting most of the turbos you are trying going in the first place with PT&E. You didn't have to do anything but call them and order up something that works. Most of what you are using we already did the ground work on. So essentially you replaced the kit we sold him with one that was much more expensive, has a manifold that is going to crack and break and bad mouthed our parts to get the sale.

Luckily we can stay in business just selling great parts that work, if I had to operate like you do I would go sell hotdogs on the corner.

I hope someday we meet face-to-face.

David Buschur
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I figure I would chime in on this since Im the customer in question. David, Ryan never bad mouthed your products and actually told me I had a nice setup. He did not steal my patronage nor did he attempt to. I beleive I talked to Tym on the 16th and told him the situation and that I needed a base map for my whole setup. He was reluctant but he said he would since I had purchased everything from your shop. He asked me to email the mods I had just to make sure he knew what he was making a map for. He never refused to send me the map as you stated. I have the email here saved that I sent as soon as I got off of the phone with him. This map would have been nice since it would have saved me money on the AWD dyno tuning and considering I have spent close to $12k with you guys that wouldnt be a problem. As for going to RRE, I had some issues with them, one of which they bad mouthed you as well for selling me the pistons and rods. so I was against going to them for their lack professionalism. Trailering my car from California to Ohio isnt an option for me and considering I have bought almost everything engine related on my Evo from you I would have expected some support from you guys. You stated that if I would do my own tuning you would have no problems sending me maps. I am not comfortable doing my Ems tuning since I have never dealt with one and I dont want to damage my investment. Is that unreasonable? I dont care what beef you have with RNR its me we are talking about and I believe I have been a valuable customer that deserves some support. My decision to switch turbos is influenced in the fact you refuse to support me, not because Ryan persuaded me, which he had not.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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I recommend to those who are not directly involved in the RnR/BR drama to stay out of it and get this thread back on topic. David is obviously a proud man who knows all a man truly owns in this world is his good name.

I would really LOVE to hear a little more about the turbo kits that TT is developing.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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well Mark is a great guy. I am sure he will guide you through the next step but I would consider the police department for sure.
Yeah, and your next step should be to take this crap offline. Let the cops, admins, mods, or the friggin' Supreme Court sort it out for all I care, just take it OFFLINE!

This place has become friggin rediculous and worthless. Either threads degenerate into dick wagging, pissing contests by the vendors and their *** munchers or they get ignored. Either way, it's rapidly becoming more like Jerry Springer and less like a place where solid information can be found.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Guys, leave David alone please. The whole story has not been disclosed, and a PM should be a "Private Message" like it was intended. Everytime I've talked to anyone from BR (including David himself), I've been helped quickly and treated with lots of respect. Let's stay on track.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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I would also like to hear about TT turbos, but I don't think we will in this thread. I think this thread is headed down the toilet.

I also think propellorhead is right. I'm waiting for that bald guy (bouncer) on jerry springer to come out.

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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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I say close this thread.

I am done with this stuff as well, this time I hope for good.

I did send RNR a PM about calling me a liar. It was not a threat, it was a promise, I admit it.
I am 38 years old since you asked and have done plenty of what I promised you in those 38 years, thanks for asking. Maybe next year you can send me a birthday card.

David Buschur
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