rain/snow driving
Okay, this is simple. Based on personal experience, in warm wet weather the only difference with the Advans is that the limit isn't clear when driving hard. They stick better in the wet than any other tires I've had on any vehicle, but they don't give you much if any warning when they are about to let go.
In the cold (below about 60F) the Advans are still very predictable but they don't stick very well at all. You can purposely oversteer or understeer around corners very easily, predictably, and reliably. The car is very easy to toss around this way while maintaining tight control.
Snow: I have no clue and no desire to find out.
I got my Evo back in January. The roads were salted and dry at that time so I had no experience with icy conditions on these tires. First day we got a really good layer of frost on the ground and a light dusting of snow I wanted to try out the AWD. I backed the car out of my garage easily enough and tried to stop in my driveway. The car slid backwards out of the driveway and most of the way across the street, nearly hitting my neighbors pickup. I put the car back in the garage and immediately called most of the major tire and wheel places to get something for winter use.
The short version of winter use with advans is, you can go okay if you are very careful, but if you want to stop you've got to think ahead. Way ahead. Too far ahead for me to feel comfortable. If I had to choose from your list I'd choose the FWD with AS tires over the Advans and AWD for snow/ice, but really prefer the Evo with all season tires over any FWD.
A lot of people get snow tires for winter around here but I feel it's a waste of money as you are trading one high maintenance tire with low tread-life for another. The Advans are only going to work properly at temps above 70F. Snow tires only do what they are supposed to do when there is snow and wear quickly when it's dry. The rest of the time you are better off with all seasons. And around here (Chicago 'burbs) snow doesn't stay on the streets very long with all the plows and salt.
In the cold (below about 60F) the Advans are still very predictable but they don't stick very well at all. You can purposely oversteer or understeer around corners very easily, predictably, and reliably. The car is very easy to toss around this way while maintaining tight control.
Snow: I have no clue and no desire to find out.
I got my Evo back in January. The roads were salted and dry at that time so I had no experience with icy conditions on these tires. First day we got a really good layer of frost on the ground and a light dusting of snow I wanted to try out the AWD. I backed the car out of my garage easily enough and tried to stop in my driveway. The car slid backwards out of the driveway and most of the way across the street, nearly hitting my neighbors pickup. I put the car back in the garage and immediately called most of the major tire and wheel places to get something for winter use.
The short version of winter use with advans is, you can go okay if you are very careful, but if you want to stop you've got to think ahead. Way ahead. Too far ahead for me to feel comfortable. If I had to choose from your list I'd choose the FWD with AS tires over the Advans and AWD for snow/ice, but really prefer the Evo with all season tires over any FWD.
A lot of people get snow tires for winter around here but I feel it's a waste of money as you are trading one high maintenance tire with low tread-life for another. The Advans are only going to work properly at temps above 70F. Snow tires only do what they are supposed to do when there is snow and wear quickly when it's dry. The rest of the time you are better off with all seasons. And around here (Chicago 'burbs) snow doesn't stay on the streets very long with all the plows and salt.
Last edited by Satori; Oct 31, 2004 at 11:25 AM.
heh
"please dont comment unless you are really sure of the answer, because I know a lot of people have probably been misinformed or have their own opinions."
This has to go down as one of the WORST ways to begin a post on a public forum where you are SPECIFICALLY soliciting advice and opinions. I don't want to start a flame war, but a little ettiquette goes a long way. That being said...
Your advans are fine in the rain, but horrid in the snow. You'll want to replace them with either all seasons or winters, depending on where you live.
This has to go down as one of the WORST ways to begin a post on a public forum where you are SPECIFICALLY soliciting advice and opinions. I don't want to start a flame war, but a little ettiquette goes a long way. That being said...
Your advans are fine in the rain, but horrid in the snow. You'll want to replace them with either all seasons or winters, depending on where you live.
Out of necessity I had to drive with my stock Advans in the worst snow to hit my area in a very long time. It was only out of experience that I could drive it, being careful not to drive on steep inclines and leaving plenty of room for braking. Those tires are accidents waiting to happen in the snow, and that sticker on the driver's side door warning you about using Advans in the snow is there for a reason. In the rain they are decent.
Originally Posted by def z
"please dont comment unless you are really sure of the answer, because I know a lot of people have probably been misinformed or have their own opinions."
This has to go down as one of the WORST ways to begin a post on a public forum where you are SPECIFICALLY soliciting advice and opinions. I don't want to start a flame war, but a little ettiquette goes a long way. That being said...
Your advans are fine in the rain, but horrid in the snow. You'll want to replace them with either all seasons or winters, depending on where you live.
This has to go down as one of the WORST ways to begin a post on a public forum where you are SPECIFICALLY soliciting advice and opinions. I don't want to start a flame war, but a little ettiquette goes a long way. That being said...
Your advans are fine in the rain, but horrid in the snow. You'll want to replace them with either all seasons or winters, depending on where you live.
Originally Posted by redevo8driver
dude all i'm saying is that a lot of people give advice without really knowing what they're talking about..period..and as for you..this is the second time u've chimed in oh so merrily on one of my posts..and you're STILL a newbie..why dont u evolve already jeez
Actually, I figure I'm one of your favorite types of posters as I post when I have something worthwhile to add. Notice I responded concisely to your query. I just don't have much patience with know-it-alls.
If you have to drive in the snow at all, you'll want all-seasons at a minimum. AWD with summers simply means you'll be spinning all four tires as you slide into the curb...
Sorry, but anyone that says the ADVANS and all wheel drive are awesome is either NUTS or is just bragging to sound cool.
They suck. Period.
And it don't take no freakun tire engineer to splain it to you.
I would take a front drive in a BUFFALO NEW YORK minute over four jokeyourmammas and snow on the ground.
Now, GOOD all seasons or snows and the EVO??
AWESOME and FUN at the same time... FAWESOME.
They suck. Period.
And it don't take no freakun tire engineer to splain it to you.
I would take a front drive in a BUFFALO NEW YORK minute over four jokeyourmammas and snow on the ground.
Now, GOOD all seasons or snows and the EVO??
AWESOME and FUN at the same time... FAWESOME.
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