I dont' see how the evolution is evolved and not tamed. Please explain Mitsubishi.
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Originally posted by darknightohio
just be happy that
brought the evolution to the US end of story
just be happy that
brought the evolution to the US end of story
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Originally posted by gtr
Hey,
claims that the new evo is evolved not tamed. This is their advertisement not something i've made up! So i'm just asking what is evolved???
Hey,
claims that the new evo is evolved not tamed. This is their advertisement not something i've made up! So i'm just asking what is evolved???
Originally posted by gtr
Why is everyone put me responsible for all ACD/AYC complaints?
Why is everyone put me responsible for all ACD/AYC complaints?
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Originally posted by Rafal
Did you read about a new STi in Shirokuma's review?
Did you read about a new STi in Shirokuma's review?
Originally posted by Rafal
Unless you are the lucky one able to drive both on a track already.
Unless you are the lucky one able to drive both on a track already.
gtr,
Did you not see the tech spec manual that was posted here. Mitsu showed that we are getting that fancy new badging, thus the evolution of the Evolution j/k
On a serious note I was having doubts a couple of months ago about the Evo, but now I am getting more and more excited about the chance to own one. I think that the point that gtr is trying to make is that over the years Mitsu has driven the point that the Evo evolves with each new itteration. Mitsu has stated that the ACD and AYC (not arguing the pros and or cons of these two features so please don't attack me here) were part of that evolution. Now the Evo is in the states for the first time and while it is very exciting and just incredibly cool, we look across the pond and the Japanese version still gets AYC and ACD and a 6-speed tranny. Sounds like theirs has evolved. In a sense ours has evolved since we have never had them here before. I do agree that AYC and ACD are no big issue and that I would much rather have a tried and trued 5 speed over being a guinea pig on a 6. I think that gtr does have a valid point as to the motivations of Mitsu. It would be interesting to see what exactly are the differences between USDM and JDM Evos. Might even be helpful for some to get ideas on how to make their USDM Evo a little better. In summation, can't we all just get along.
Did you not see the tech spec manual that was posted here. Mitsu showed that we are getting that fancy new badging, thus the evolution of the Evolution j/k
On a serious note I was having doubts a couple of months ago about the Evo, but now I am getting more and more excited about the chance to own one. I think that the point that gtr is trying to make is that over the years Mitsu has driven the point that the Evo evolves with each new itteration. Mitsu has stated that the ACD and AYC (not arguing the pros and or cons of these two features so please don't attack me here) were part of that evolution. Now the Evo is in the states for the first time and while it is very exciting and just incredibly cool, we look across the pond and the Japanese version still gets AYC and ACD and a 6-speed tranny. Sounds like theirs has evolved. In a sense ours has evolved since we have never had them here before. I do agree that AYC and ACD are no big issue and that I would much rather have a tried and trued 5 speed over being a guinea pig on a 6. I think that gtr does have a valid point as to the motivations of Mitsu. It would be interesting to see what exactly are the differences between USDM and JDM Evos. Might even be helpful for some to get ideas on how to make their USDM Evo a little better. In summation, can't we all just get along.
Originally posted by Claudius
Are you seriously asking that? You must have read about the increased body shell rigidity and meeting US standards (bumpers, emissions, etc.) and you can surely tell it looks more modern (whether you actually like that or not is a different question), carbon fiber rear wing, etc. Small improvements here and there over the 7.
Are you seriously asking that? You must have read about the increased body shell rigidity and meeting US standards (bumpers, emissions, etc.) and you can surely tell it looks more modern (whether you actually like that or not is a different question), carbon fiber rear wing, etc. Small improvements here and there over the 7.
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with the response on the current evo8 by US buyers, i am sure they will bring those later on. if you sell the evo at a higher price because of these, they might not receive it warmly.
Originally posted by Claudius
No, I didnt. Not interested. I have driven the STI that is available in Europe. That was bad enough.
I have driven an Evo 7 RS and a European STI on a rally stage (Col de Turini). That's what I base my opinion on.
No, I didnt. Not interested. I have driven the STI that is available in Europe. That was bad enough.
I have driven an Evo 7 RS and a European STI on a rally stage (Col de Turini). That's what I base my opinion on.
Looks like you are just for EVO and prefer to ignore other options around. Good for
but I will make my decision based on my detailed research looking at both cars. I had GSX and WRX already and I can tell WRX was way more reliable then GSX.And from my first experience with
and Subaru dealers I can tell I am way better treated in the former one (where I have an STi deposit for MSRP without obligation to buy it).So let the specs and reviews coming.
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Originally posted by wizardofoz
Good point Claudius, but the JDM version also receives those "evolutions"
Good point Claudius, but the JDM version also receives those "evolutions"
Originally posted by wizardofoz
I think it is probably more a stateside feeling that due to our crappy gov regs we get the shaft. Not Mitsu's fault but frustrating nonetheless.
I think it is probably more a stateside feeling that due to our crappy gov regs we get the shaft. Not Mitsu's fault but frustrating nonetheless.
But you'll get an exhaust and ECU anyway, right?
Originally posted by Rafal
Strange for somebody interested in performance cars.
Looks like you are just for EVO and prefer to ignore other options around. Good for
but I will make my decision based on my detailed research looking at both cars. I had GSX and WRX already and I can tell WRX was way more reliable then GSX.
And from my first experience with
and Subaru dealers I can tell I am way better treated in the former one (where I have an STi deposit for MSRP without obligation to buy it).
So let the specs and reviews coming.
Strange for somebody interested in performance cars.
Looks like you are just for EVO and prefer to ignore other options around. Good for
but I will make my decision based on my detailed research looking at both cars. I had GSX and WRX already and I can tell WRX was way more reliable then GSX.And from my first experience with
and Subaru dealers I can tell I am way better treated in the former one (where I have an STi deposit for MSRP without obligation to buy it).So let the specs and reviews coming.
Originally posted by Claudius
Sure, but that doesnt make the US Evo any less good, does it?
I can see that. Too bad you have got these performance reducing emission laws.
But you'll get an exhaust and ECU anyway, right?
Sure, but that doesnt make the US Evo any less good, does it?
I can see that. Too bad you have got these performance reducing emission laws.
But you'll get an exhaust and ECU anyway, right?
Exhaust, ECU, Intake a must of course. Still have to pass emissions on command though as the county I reside in has the toughest in the state of Texas.
Originally posted by Claudius
How is trying out two supposedly competing rally type road cars in a special stage strange?
How is trying out two supposedly competing rally type road cars in a special stage strange?
And you claim no interest in even checking what is new in one of them?
I am indeed in favor of the Evo, but that is due to having driven and been taken in lots of cars. If someone makes a better car, I'll buy that.
Originally posted by Rafal
Strange for somebody interested in performance cars.
Looks like you are just for EVO and prefer to ignore other options around. Good for
but I will make my decision based on my detailed research looking at both cars. I had GSX and WRX already and I can tell WRX was way more reliable then GSX.
And from my first experience with
and Subaru dealers I can tell I am way better treated in the former one (where I have an STi deposit for MSRP without obligation to buy it).
So let the specs and reviews coming.
Strange for somebody interested in performance cars.
Looks like you are just for EVO and prefer to ignore other options around. Good for
but I will make my decision based on my detailed research looking at both cars. I had GSX and WRX already and I can tell WRX was way more reliable then GSX.And from my first experience with
and Subaru dealers I can tell I am way better treated in the former one (where I have an STi deposit for MSRP without obligation to buy it).So let the specs and reviews coming.
Originally posted by wizardofoz
Since when does someones experience with vehicles that shape their opinions about what they like and dislike not count.
Since when does someones experience with vehicles that shape their opinions about what they like and dislike not count.
He said he is "No, I didnt. Not interested." when I asked if he read a STi8 preview. This is strange for me.
Originally posted by Rafal
Cause we are not going to buy neithr of them now in US. We have two different cars to choose from.
And you claim no interest in even checking what is new in one of them?
And you still do not know what STi will bring to the table, don't you?
Cause we are not going to buy neithr of them now in US. We have two different cars to choose from.
And you claim no interest in even checking what is new in one of them?
And you still do not know what STi will bring to the table, don't you?
As far as not knowing what the STi has to offer nobody stateside does know what to expect. I kind of compare this to the computer industry. As soon as you buy something next week there will be something faster, slicker, better. But if you just sit idley by and wait then you never end up getting anything. So you do your research and buy one that is capable and that you can tweak to make it faster, slicker, better. True it would be nice to be able to compare side by side the Evo and the STi, but right now it is not going to happen. So what will happen is some will wait and be happy that they waited if they like the STi better or be disappointed that they wasted all that time not enjoying the EVO. Like wise some will buy the Evo and 6 months later say "damn I could of had a STi." While others will be happier that they got the Evo.


