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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
There was nothing wrong with your car to "fix." I personally drive your car and the tune was working very well - a vast improvement over the stock base tune as noted by my OBD II data logs. Your boost was tapering more than normal and I noted that to you and suggested you try the heavier hallman spring and ball. I gave you all he "support" you could ask for, personally test driving your car for a half hour, scanning your data and setting your boost controller for you and then answering your telephone inquiry. What else could you expect me to do ?

You try and spin this ridicuolus story that I somehow screwed you and your car was running so weak. Bottom line is that none of it was true. Your car was running as expected with a through the mail flash, cat back and mbc. Should be just about 275 whp to a DYNO JET dyno which was what you were making.

You do not care for my customer service - but maybe you just did not want to hear the answers which I was giving you. I refunded all your money to you and now you have a free tune from TT so you should be happy. But instead you contiunue to post misleading and distorted claims about your power gains between the two flashes which are totally inaccurate.

Some people may have unrealistic expectations about what to expect from a $199 through the mail reflash. Your car ran, it ran smoothly and obviously your engine did not blow up. AND - it ran better than it did before I flashed it - BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION - read above. I think that is a resaonable result from a $199 through the mail flash.

If you wanted to shoot for the highest possible power levels a slightly more expensive custom tune would have been better for your purposes in which we can safetly monitor the data and tune the car more to the safe limit for a particular car.

I can honestly tell you that breaking whp records was NEVER one of my considerations when desigining the calibrations for the through the mail flashes. Smoothness, reliability and margin of saftey are always the primary criteia which any professional tuner should place first in setting up a through the mail tune.

I hope that readers who have the time to read through all the quotes of yours I have posted above will come to the conslusion that your observations are inaccurate and that you are obviously making these misleading statements in exchange for free tuning services and in an effort to promote dyno days which youare organizing.

Whatever Al. I am not benefitting at ALL from helping QUALITY tuners organize events. I am organizing one for Vishnu and I do not have ANY Vishnu products at all. I set up one for TurboTrix in Dec and one this weekend because a lot of people want a TT tune. Don't be bitter because there is no demand for Dynoflash in Texas except 5 people in Houston who may or may not have it anymore, LOL!!

I can't believe how much you talk poorly about me with all the stuff I have on you. Do you really want to talk about your past? That's what it is coming to. I thought we were finished. Let me know if you want to continue. We'll talk about honesty and morals and ethics. Let's see how far your diatribe gets you. Bring it.


BTW, I am starting you read the crap I just quoted. There is too much false info there to even know where to start? My boost was tapering? My boost doesn't taper at all and never has, etc etc. You didn't do anything to help me. You're a liar, Al. Compulsive. It showed in your previous profession and it shows in this one.
Old Feb 4, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Al,

What factor do you guy use at Proven? I just want to know.

Thanks
Old Feb 4, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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all i have is an mbc, dp, resonated test pipe, 3inch catback, and turbotrix flash on 93 octane 22psi and put down 295 whp. that was also on a mustang dyno.
Old Feb 4, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
I can't believe how much you talk poorly about me with all the stuff I have on you. Do you really want to talk about your past? That's what it is coming to. I thought we were finished. Let me know if you want to continue. We'll talk about honesty and morals and ethics. Let's see how far your diatribe gets you. Bring it.
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Simply put, I am tried of reading your misleading claim that you "picked up 50 whp from my flash to the TT flash" - Its NOT true, its misleading and I think anyone reading this thread with an open mind will come to the same conclusion.

For the record, there is NOTHING in my past that I need to hide from you or anyone else here on these forums.

Somehow I don't find it unusual that after I take the time to show that your whp claims about my product are not true that now you are making threats to expose some kind of personal dirt about me - which in all likelyhood is just as false and inaccurate as your misleading dyno claims.

Do what ever you want but please understand that when you post things on the forum like "I picked up 50 whp with the TT flash over the Dyno Flash" and its NOT TRUE - I am going to respond.

I let it go for a long time figuring that you would eventually move onto other things and find other things to post about but when you keep posting the same stuff almost a year later and even when I have given you back a full refund - its getting tired.

You will not stop me from defending my product with threats to sling mud and attack me.
Old Feb 4, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
You're a liar, Al. Compulsive. It showed in your previous profession and it shows in this one.
The readers can determine who is the liar by reading the above quoted posts of yours which I quoted back in the big post I made on page 4 I think .

Bottom line - don't try and change the subject to tabloid gossip threats - lets stick to the matter at hand - - - do you still stand by your claim of a 50 whp gain from just a TT flash over my flash OR are you willing to admit that the claim is not accurate or fair?
Old Feb 4, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
The readers can determine who is the liar by reading the above quoted posts of yours which I quoted back in the big post I made on page 4 I think .

Bottom line - don't try and change the subject to tabloid gossip threats - lets stick to the matter at hand - - - do you still stand by your claim of a 50 whp gain from just a TT flash over my flash OR are you willing to admit that the claim is not accurate or fair?
It IS TRUE, Al. Sorry. Fabricate what you will but there are reasons you have no Texas business and my flashes are one of them.

You can come up with whatever you want, quote whatever you want, explain it away however you want, but the people here have seen the comparison in real life.

If you want to prove something with a quote, why don't I do you one better? How much business are you doing in Texas right now? What's on your schedule? Nothing. Reality speaks.


What can you quote? That I said my car felt smoother? It did. But it made no power. What can you say? The flashes were both mail in, also. I didn't get a TT custom tune until I got cams, etc, so you can't blame that either.

I am not saying you can't make power on anyone's car ever. Of course you can. But I do send out the caution that doing business with you is truly CAVEAT EMPTOR - BUYER BEWARE.
Old Feb 4, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Let's bring this thread back on the subject can we?

BigAeVo, your #s are pretty close to what I had, assuming there's an approx. 20% loss on a Mustang dyno from a Dynojet. My mods are in my sig, except I didn't have cams and a BOV. I don't know if the numbers would be better if I've had a healthier car but I went into TT running way rich, w/ a leaking bypass valve which was VTA at the time (stupid idea), multiple CELs and baselined @ 190-ish. After some minor adjustments and a flash by Mark I was able to make 279whp & 281tq. Some would say it's rather low comparing to other similarly modded Evo's. But hey, given the car's condition I would say those are pretty good results.

Here's the dyno sheet (Dynojet):
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Yeah, those numbers are real low, actually it seems like a lot of yalls numbers are low with the flashes. My car was tuned with SAFC, full turbo-back exhaust with cat-delete, injen CAI, Greddy ProfecB set at 19-20 pounds and I put down 286.1 hp and 262.8 tq. and I was told that it was a conservative tune. It was on a dyno-jet though.
Old Feb 4, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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I think you should try and contact who did your dyno, find out if they can give you a print out without smoothing. On a mustang dyno the smoothing will be like you drew it with a pencil everytime. I think you will see a big step in your graph , hence the reason why you yielded such a low hp reading. As i told you via pm's im sure al will help you out, or try another mail in flash... Im down here in texas and will be on a mustang dyno tomm,, i'll let you know how it turns out.

If awards were going out, i think al should get the prize for the longest post on evo M .. {{{{{{ clap for al }}}}}} your fingers must hurt ..

Mark
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
It IS TRUE, Al. Sorry. Fabricate what you will but there are reasons you have no Texas business and my flashes are one of them.

You can come up with whatever you want, quote whatever you want, explain it away however you want, but the people here have seen the comparison in real life.

If you want to prove something with a quote, why don't I do you one better? How much business are you doing in Texas right now? What's on your schedule? Nothing. Reality speaks.


What can you quote? That I said my car felt smoother? It did. But it made no power. What can you say? The flashes were both mail in, also. I didn't get a TT custom tune until I got cams, etc, so you can't blame that either.

I am not saying you can't make power on anyone's car ever. Of course you can. But I do send out the caution that doing business with you is truly CAVEAT EMPTOR - BUYER BEWARE.
You have beat this to death and no more. EVERYONE is well aware of your opinion on Dynoflash and frankly the disruption you cause here exceeds your value to this site. Your credibilty here is zip Cody and your welcome is over. Either leave your opinions about Dynoflash at the door or leave.

If you don't like it, then contact KK. You will be banned if you post one more comment about Dynoflash. Your disregard for others member's enjoyment of this site is disapointing.


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