someone posted they lost the oil pressure line to the turbo and the whole engine was detroyed with the turbo. THAT is expensive. Had to be a $8k fix at least.

The engine is pretty solid, and most knowledgable engine guys know the limits of the 4G63 pretty darn well. Unless you do something wrong to it or it is just a lemon, the engine should be fine for up to 450 whp.

With high power, the most common things you will break are driveline parts...clutches,TCs, trans, etc. But, if you dont launch youre car like crazy and abust it, they should be OK. There are a lot of fast evos out there with absolutely NO problems whatsoever

 

Oh boy do i have a lot to learn, I already know.

Maybe I wont be doing as much modding as I thoght I was going to

 

Actually a reflash is really not that simple. It might only take a few seconds to actually do the reflash but the affects of a reflash can be very major and can be damaging if the parameters were changed incorrectly in the flash. It's like someone writing a bad program. So yea, if I was mitsu, your warranty will be void for a reflash.

 

Man. If you do it the right way, you won't have any problems. Just do stage upgrades from your choice vendor. U aren't going to run into problems with much. Now, know this, the more you change the car from stock, the more likely you are to have small issues with things such as boost leaks and things like that. But, i have a feeling you are a ways away from having the money to mod the hell out of it. Just do what i have done and you will be perfectly happy with completely stock driveability and a perfectly reliable EVO.

and learn to drive it nicely.

 

I think that is the problem with a lot of people. They buy the car and start modded to hell not knowing what they are doing. And when things go wrong because they f'd up, they expect the dealer to fix it. Just know that if you are going to play, you should expect to pay. If not, keep it stock.

 

My car is bone stock, and there are very few things that I can think of at any given moment than I would rather be doing than cruising in the evo. I cant imagine this car with some of the hp numbers people have.

Even if you leave youre car bone stock, you will have SO MUCH FUN with it, it should almost be a crime. And if you decide to mod, you can keep the stock turbo and stock controller and the car will be very reliable as long as its a good product and you take care of it. Dont think you have to do anything right away. Just get the evo first, then take some time and figure out what youre realistic plans are.

Its youre choice, but you cant go wrong even with a stock evo.

 

LOL. i had a full exhaust sitting at my house before i even got the evo. LOL

i drove it for 1 day, long enough to tint the windows before i put the exhaust on.

 

Why would stage upgrades make a difference?
Well the problem is I dont live near any of the places at all, so some of the places here might mess things up. Also, I'm not going to act like I know a lot about cars, I don't so I'm gonna have to learn a ton. I was already looking into Vishnu stage 1 Plus, and a few other little mods, how much HP / TQ are you running? Also, What clutch are you or are you planning to run?

 

I think a lot of people overlook the importance of ABS. I had to get on the brakes pretty hard today and laid down about 200 feet of rubber trying to avoid rear ending someone that turned out right in front of me while I was going 55. The control of the car was amazing but if I didn't know what I was doing I could have easily hit the idiot. Food for thought.

 

Someone posted not too long ago that their dealer actually ENCOURAGED a reflash. Apparently the tech new a lot about the car and didnt think it should be running as rich as it does on the top end. A call to Al solved that problem! I dont think this is the norm, but re-iterates the point....the main thing with warranty stuff is dealer attitude.

 

Staged upgrades are nice becuase a respected shop has already done the research and development for you. Basically, you get the best bang for your buck, with the least amount of risk to the car.

Edit: add:
If you look closely though, you will notice that most of the stages from different vendors are similar and follow a pretty established path. This is good, which indicates that most people agree on the proper way to upgrade the car. Most start out with exhaust, a boost controller and some tuning. Then some intake stuff, IC stuff, fuel pump, cams, and onward.

 

Aluminum vs. castiorn block
EVO is my pick

 

Thats what i was going to say. I am at 13K, and now i am going to install cams, but my car has never been abused and never raced on a track...and no launches.

Now, in regards to dealers, warrany, etc...its liek they have said, depends on the dealer....lucky for me my dealer is cool...my car has HKS CB and DP....and they have never told me anything when i take it for the oil changes check up ( pit pass), etc....but i know poeple that they have taken teh car for oil changes and ****, and they have denied the pit pass programs just for a BOV...thats gay

But just test drive both, and buy the one you liek the most...both are awesomes cars and are very evenly match...you will not regret it owning either one

 

So lets say I get the Vishnu Stage 1 Plus.
Which is,
Passive Boost Solenoid Emulator
Signature Series 3” Cat-Back Exhaust
Signature Series 3-inch Down-Pipe with modular High-Flow Catalyst
Pre-Set Adjustable Camshaft Gears HKS
Upgraded Camshafts
Upgraded Fuel Pump

so basically if anything goes wrong with the car, almost everything will be voided out on warranty? and I the dealership will make me pay for it?

 

The replys were rollin what happend?!?!
I was learning here!