Ohio race sum up - Evos beat the STI's - big time !
Originally Posted by dsci4
he's referring to your comment about the warranty. you know the joke of a one we've got vs. the better one you got.
i never understand why warranty junk comes up so much on sites where people mod their cars a lot. ???
i never understand why warranty junk comes up so much on sites where people mod their cars a lot. ???
I agree though, warranty becomes a weak point because even if Subaru is better, it is marginally better. Meaning not by much, if at all.
Anywho.... The STi has some problems that make it more sensitive to the eyes of those who own the beast that is the 4g63. The STi bottom end is capable of handling well over 600 hp, it just took a while for people to do it. As many have said so far, the amount of plumbing the STi has makes tuning for it very difficult. The Turbo in the STi is located far back in the bay, whereas the Mitsu turbo is right behind the radiator. So when the STi switches to a front mount, which it has to for high power, the tubing gets much longer.
The pistons are very strong in the STi. Yes, they are cast, but their silicon coating makes them quite stronger than a regular cast piston, but not quite on par with a forged. So, when an engine has strong detonation in a high powered motor, the pistons can bust.
As a whole, the engine is far from weak. But, it simply is not as refined as the 4g63 on some levels. What bugs me is that we are the only country that gets a cast piston. If we got forged a lot of this 'weak engine' talk would not exist.
In sum, the STi engine is NOT weak, it just is not as strong as the EVO's. The EVO owners should not, however, act like the STi engine is weak because it doesn't consistently hold as much power as yours.
Ok enough evo vs sti or evo vs wrx talk. I think this is getting out of hand. Now back to the topic.
WHERE ARE THE VIDS!!! LOL
I've seen the 10.06 AMS vid where it raced that dsm before it exploded.
WHERE ARE THE VIDS!!! LOL
I've seen the 10.06 AMS vid where it raced that dsm before it exploded.
hey... i can admit if a car's respectable or not... and a STi is that...
and it's not that we're the only country that doesn't get a forged piston in a STi... we're the only country not to get the real STi engine period... the real one, the 2.0L, is an iron block w/ forged internals over seas if i'm correct on this still, or did the rest of the world start using the 2.5 too???
and it's not that we're the only country that doesn't get a forged piston in a STi... we're the only country not to get the real STi engine period... the real one, the 2.0L, is an iron block w/ forged internals over seas if i'm correct on this still, or did the rest of the world start using the 2.5 too???
Originally Posted by Cash Money
hey... i can admit if a car's respectable or not... and a STi is that...
and it's not that we're the only country that doesn't get a forged piston in a STi... we're the only country not to get the real STi engine period... the real one, the 2.0L, is an iron block w/ forged internals over seas if i'm correct on this still, or did the rest of the world start using the 2.5 too???
and it's not that we're the only country that doesn't get a forged piston in a STi... we're the only country not to get the real STi engine period... the real one, the 2.0L, is an iron block w/ forged internals over seas if i'm correct on this still, or did the rest of the world start using the 2.5 too???
Oh and the 2.5l in the spec-c gets the works meaning forged and etc... it is a lot better than the bottom end we get here.
I get what you're saying though, the overseas 2.0l is stronger.
Last edited by Borti; Apr 19, 2005 at 04:23 PM.
Hey STiChuckycheese...I'm gonna put this one to rest by taking the low road...ready?... Your GAY...period..have a nice day...now beat it nerd.
EDIT: Oh well, I guess I'm too late, he already ran. Sorry, I saw everyone else get a rip at him
EDIT: Oh well, I guess I'm too late, he already ran. Sorry, I saw everyone else get a rip at him
Last edited by mobounce; Apr 19, 2005 at 04:47 PM.
Originally Posted by mobounce
Hey STiChuckycheese...I'm gonna put this one to rest by taking the low road...ready?... Your GAY...period..have a nice day...now beat it nerd.
EDIT: Oh well, I guess I'm too late, he already ran. Sorry, I saw everyone else get a rip at him
EDIT: Oh well, I guess I'm too late, he already ran. Sorry, I saw everyone else get a rip at him

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From: Why do they always call the Evo the Dark Side?
Originally Posted by Borti
No, well, the Spec-C also uses a 2.5L motor, and the WR1.
Anyhoo, has no one mentioned the almost 15 year R&D advantage the 4G63 has? I suspect that helps.
john
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Oh yeah - almost forgot - that is the day i am finally suppose dto race the turbo Trixs evo ! Thanks for reminding me ! 
east vs west coast
whos got the faster evo ?
Originally Posted by dsci4
he's referring to your comment about the warranty. you know the joke of a one we've got vs. the better one you got.
i never understand why warranty junk comes up so much on sites where people mod their cars a lot. ???
i never understand why warranty junk comes up so much on sites where people mod their cars a lot. ???
Well, I'm sorry but most of the big players with Subarus don't live in the midwest. Good amount of mildly modded cars in Chicago but most of them don't have projects done by this time of the year nor want to waste vacation time yet for a drag race that isn't gonna be sided very well to Subaru participation(the'camps', while similar have noticeable differences in the types of people in them) . By the end of summer, there will be faster Lancers and faster Imprezas. (that includes STIs, n00bs). The next Shootout, my car will be back from Painting and pushing constant 11 sec time slips. Not fast, but fun enough.









