Remember one thing people.......

Mits stated that the EVO will be the only performance production car available.. Therefore, they will make many, and they will sell eventually, they'll have to come to their senses and make the dealers sell the cars for MSRP...

 

First off....no hard feelings towards you either.

huhu...I was joking. I'm not going to go buy 2 Evo's. One is enough for me!

And for me, I know Subaru dealers will not price their Sti over MSRP....they are told not to. But if they did mark-up also, I would buy no car. After all, no one needs an Evo or an Sti. It's a luxury item. I'd just drive my daily car, and save my money and spend it on something else.

SC

 

Secret Chimp your member number is 5150.
That is a police code for crazy person.

I'VE GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT!

Look at it this way...
If people wait until next year to buy one cheaper...
Look at the extra couple grand as a rental fee for this year.
You would jump at the chance to rent one for a year for that.
OK maybe I'm the crazy one now. I'll shut up.

 

5150....I just thought it as the name of a Van Halen album.

Nah...why rent if you want to own?

I know, it's all about opportunity cost and how much waiting is worth in $$ amounts. If I want the opportunity to buy it now, I may have to pay more. But I don't necessarially need it now. I've got a lot of patience. And saving a few grand is certainly worth the patience.

SC

 

For me, owning one of these cars is priceless so I'm gonna part with an extra $500 bucks to own it next month.

 

When the S2000's came out the dealers here marked them up 10k over MSRP and some people bought them at that price. The price came down the next year is just doing the same thing and trying to liberate some funds from people that couldn't care less about another 5-10k to be the first one on the block with one. It's all about supply and demand. I don't fault the dealers for that. For my money I'll be driving a 2005. Anyone that thinks that you won't be able to buy one for MSRP is just being paranoid, IMO. I've already been waiting this long, what's one more year....it's not like I'm walking.

 

i am in a waiting mode...saving some extra cash and all...i want next years model anyway...i personally don't like to get the first model year of anything

we have been waiting this long so what is a another month for some or another year for others...it not a big deal...we all will get what we want eventually

 

Okay, I was gonna leave this one alone since it does no good to try to explain supply and demand to anyone here, but the above statement is really a load of bunk. Excuse my colloquial Southern-ese, and try to stay with me:

Can't no manufacturer tell no dealer how and what they can sell anythang for. That's what the "S" in mSrp is all about... suggested. It is called collusion wether it is in the consumers favor or the dealers favor and it is illegal. PERIOD, no ifs ands or buts about it. They can stand out there and auction the cars off for all anybody could care. IF just two measly dealers in one small market town, like say, oh I don't know - Birmingham, AL decide that all STi's will sell at $5 below MSRP it is illegal just as if the entire Subaru dealer group says, MSRP only. What about the guy who refuses to pay MSRP for any car? You think he won't get a deal, SOMEWHERE? You think he wouldn't have a case for a major lawsuit if he got wind of this deal? You guys are dreamin' if you think 900 odd Sti's are gonna get whored out for one price and one price only. That is, unless they slap a Saturn logo on it between now and then.

 

Ahh. Excellent points GPTourer.

Mordeth

 

It is unecessary to sell any car for over sticker. All it does is create grief for the customer and creates buyers remorse.

When a manufacturer like Lexus says that it is against franchise rules to sell their cars for over, then I would say it is a fair assumption that they regard their clients highly!! Look at all of the hot product that we have had that could have been sold for over?!

Mitsubishi dealers that participate in over sticker sales of the EVO are greedy bastards....Period!!!

I'm glad that there are some respectable dealers out there, that will sell them for list. Those guys should be THANKED when you pick up your cars.....Seriously.

 

sadfasdf

 

That's just your opinion. There are many buyers that feel they should be able to buy all cars at invoice. That our meager holdback is enough to sustain our dealership. I meet people like that on a weekly basis. They claim they have the right to pay less then MSRP. What do you have to say about them? Are they never going to find a deal somewhere in your world of MSRP only?

All of you ask yourselves this question. For those of you that live in all but the largest cities in the U.S., how many Lexus, Mercedes and Saturn dealers are there in your city? The answer for most of us is probably one of each. If there is more then one they are quite possibly owned by the same people, if not you live in a very dense, high market metropolis. The point is, these dealerhsips work very differently from the typical Mitsu, Honda, Chevy, Subaru, etc dealership. You pay sticker and they don't negotiate, their charter is written up and they have the legal paperwork to back it up. But they don't have to worry about you going twenty minutes down the road and getting worked by the other dealer who is a little more hungry.

You feel "good" about giving Lexus and Mercedes their one price? A coworker of mine that used to sell Lexus was in a group of people who made over 100K a year easy. Imagine what the managers and owners rake in. But that's understandable. Look at the cost of the product they sell. Saturn guys are salaried, but again, are average citizens, they (for the most part) don't have six figure incomes.

Most of you in even medium or small cities probably have your choice of at least two Mitsu places, a lot have five or six. If Mitsu is really trying to make a statement for this car, they won't ask for much. There will probably only be about $1200 (or less, a typical Lancer has $700 markup) difference between the invoice and the MSRP. What if there were a 10,000 difference? Would you feel okay about paying MSRP then? Or would you want 500 over/under? It should be okay since you'd be willing to hand that kind of profit over to a Lexus or Mercedes dealer, right? Why not a Mitsubishi?

 

I have been driving mitsubishis for a long time ago. I have nothig bad to said of them. good cars.
for thous who going to buy a lancer Evo8 ,i respect their opinion and the way they spend their money.
but dont get on my way whith your Evos because im going to blow you out of the road whit my oz rally "cedia" .
hey guys and girls out there who allready have lancers. check the diference on pounds from an evo to a regular lancer.
hello! weigth ratio dont forget this. and the diference is huge between cars. so if you can get at least 225hp out of your regular lancer. you will be able to beat an evo8. my car has 167hp. n/a and i can kill WRX that claim to have 225hp, weigth ratio again. And my nex victims will be EVOs, and im going to increast the power on my car up to a 250hp to make it happend beleive me.
O the awd! dont worry for that the only advantage of it is on water, snow or gravel, and you will not race on thous conditions. on dry tarmac you have nothing to envi out of an EVO or WRX.

experince talking!

 

I don't have time to explain the virtues of awd on any surface.
I would not buy a front wheel drive car for $10.00.
I am not a ricer stoplight cowboy.
My 2 cents.




Drive it like you stole it.

 

I am sorry for my ignorance but what is an OZ Rally Cedia??? Dont tell me is a Lancer OZ Rally.

About AWD you are wrong. Dont try to run and AWD car of the hole on a dry pave road. Not if you have and FWD or a RWD. For your info my AWD Eclipse can do 60ft in under 1.9sec that's enough to put 1 or 2 cars on any one of the hole. Thats a big diference to overcome and i think 250hp is not enough to come back after that, not when the car you are racing with has close to 300 hp


Claudio
95 gsx