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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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Are you really a car salesperson?


Yeah, I guess I am!! You have no idea how much of a car salesman I am GP....You really have no idea.

But that's okay!

I really don't care! I know for a fact that you are fairly new in the industry, or learned the rudiments from the wrong people..

I really hope you don't post any replies to this post...

I am content with ending our conversations on MSRP now.
If I had known that you would challenge me, I wouldn't have posted! I have tried to be objective, and constructive to boot..
You on the other hand.

Sell like hell!!
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 12:24 AM
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IT sounds to me like some you you guys are jealous that there are people in this world who have a lot of resources (aka loot) to throw around and there are people willing to take advantage of that fact. If enough of those people exist then they will be gladly relieved of their funds. Life will go on, they will make more EVOS and the sun will still come up tomorrow.
It seems to me that selling the car for over MSRP damages any future relationships with the customer who shall feel gouged, especially at resale time, they willnever receive theat "premium" back, as for these people so willing to throw money aaround, there arent that many, being so frivolous with money suggests stupidity, how many stupid people can easily buy a 28 thousand dollar car. The only people who ever seem to advocate paying more than MSRP are
1. car salesmen
2. people who are actually paying over list to get a car

people get real, this is a car, everyday some guys in japan make a whole lotta them, its no big deal, if you dont get one this month wait til next month. You hear alot of hype, people willing to pay thousands over etc. well most people in this world are b.s. artists, when the time comes to put up or shut up, the real buyers are few and far between, this isnt exactly a cheap car and if you want one , don't worry you'll get one at msrp, or wait til this fall i'm sure it'll be less than msrp, look at the wrx when it first came out, the hype the gouging, etc, now let talk not msrp but invoice, patience is a virtue, i believe in the laws of supply and demand and capitalism, however in this case charging more than msrp is gouging and in the long run it is a poor strategy and one that MMA should oppose
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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You are rigth Dark Knight.

My advice to all the guys and gals who are going to buy now. try to cut a good deal.
For example when I purchase my lancer OZ I paid or finance $16,748. I know people that paid less than that for a OZ, BUT I get a real good deal on the extended warranty, interes, and 0 (nada) down payment and my monthly payments less than $400.00.
So, Try tu cut someting you will like to buy and no someting they try to sell to you! Or like GPTourer said, If you have the green to spend or throw around, Just go to the next Mitsubishi show room and buy one at any price.
And enjoy the thrill
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Dtech
If you're willing to sell for less than MSRP, let me know...I may just buy one....
It will all depend on the margin. If the EVO only has a few hundred dollars worth of markup in the sticker, beware. IF it has several thousand dollars (which is highly unlikly) then MSRP would be cool. I don't want to gouge anybody, but I don't want to make a $100 mini on a supercar that is in high demand that we're only going to get seven of, just as if it were a Lancer ES.

We will just have to wait and see.

Or like GPTourer said, If you have the green to spend or throw around, Just go to the next Mitsubishi show room and buy one at any price.
Thank you.

You hear alot of hype, people willing to pay thousands over etc. well most people in this world are b.s. artists, when the time comes to put up or shut up, the real buyers are few and far between,
Absolutely. Somebody willing to pay 10 grand over (as is rumored to have happened at a store in Alabama, a deposit check left for the first car to arrive) IS probably someone who just wants to be first at any cost, probably has more money then they know what to do with. These types of people don't figure into the large scheme of Mitsu customer relations. OR any manufactures for that matter. They might keep the car a few months and sell it, or sit it up in a garage where it will be rarely driven, who knows? Once those types of people are exhausted, the asking prices will drop. Walk-in traffic will increase, whether quality or not, it will across the board. Mitsubishi's name will be in people's mouths again and we WILL sell more cars. Despite what M3 thinks, the EVO will have a halo effect on Mitsubishi for the good, a few buyers may get miffed, but that happens everyday, everywhere - but the increased traffic will guarantee more future Galant, Eclipse, Endeavor, etc drivers who will visit our Diamond Chapter of Excellence store which I was an integral part of achieving. And it will be all good.

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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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I walked.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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According to Sport Compact Car Magazine this month, will be making as many Evolutions as they can sell!

Bottom line.....if you want one, you will get one, and at the price you want as well (MSRP and even less). It's just a matter of time!

Way to go !!!
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by Dtech
According to Sport Compact Car Magazine this month, will be making as many Evolutions as they can sell!

Bottom line.....if you want one, you will get one, and at the price you want as well (MSRP and even less). It's just a matter of time!

According to Mitsubishi they have a maximum capacity of about 5,000 units of which they plan to make 4,600 for the 03' model year.

Bottom line, magazine's editorialize.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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I was gonna say, that article is false...
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:53 PM
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According to Mitsubishi they have a maximum capacity of about 5,000 units of which they plan to make 4,600 for the 03' model year.

Bottom line, magazine's editorialize.
and car companies may undersestimate numbers to boost demand, apples to oranges i know, but when the 2001 Porsche twin turbo came out Porsche claimed they would build only 2000 that year for the US market , they ended up making 4 thousand, don't expect me to bleive that a large automaker like mustubishi, has less ability to increase production of a car than tiny car maker Porsche does, if the demand is there, they'll make the cars thats their job,
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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I agree with you 100% dark knight....

When the Subaru WRX came out....they planned to only make and sell 10,000 units and ended up selling over 18,000 if that tells you anything!

The initial production numbers I have seen mentioned for the EVO in a couple of different sources are 6000-6500. I know to take what magazines say with a grain of salt (sometimes a whole container ), but given the above, and apparent market strategies, it would make perfect sense for them to make as many as they can sell.

Besides, just because one plant has a certain "nominal" production capacity doesn't mean that they can't ramp it up or have another plant take up the slack.

Again..... GO !

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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 08:30 AM
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Thumbs up I agree man!

Lancer Cedia is the platform of the Evo 7 & 8 and since the Cedia is a mass production car, I don`t think is a problem for to build the amount of cars to comply on demand.
And remember something knows that we in U.S. where specting an Evo for a long time. And finaly when can put them on U.S. territory, I don`t think it will be in limited numbers.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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That's exactly what Subaru originally told me about "limited numbers of production"... That's why I received mine in the first shipment.. But now look, there's a million of them sitting on the lot and Subaru is having a hard time selling them now.. That's according to a good friend of mine that said they're having bad times selling... Go figure, I'm not paying over sticker... Not me, no way..
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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Wow, talk about some big posts with alot of quoting...
My first post in a while...

My input is.. I plan on looking into the EVO in 2years. The reason... my lancer finance is only a 3 year 0 intrest. I figure by then ill have fatter pockets and be able to afford the Evo on my own and by then the price will be moderate. Look at the WRX.. I know someone who paid close to 27k for the WRX upon release... and recently my other friend got one for 23 fully loaded.....thats all i know...I just hope the same goes for the Evo..I'm in no rush to get one....
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 09:27 AM
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Yesterday I got a call from my Mitsu dealer. They told me they will have the car in 2 weeks and that the price was 33k. I told them forget it I am not paying over MSRP. When I said that he started backing up and asked me to give him a deposit and he promise me that he will do whatever it takes to sell me one at MSRP. I told him no deposit call me when the car gets there. He said ok.


Hmmm if the car is so popular why is this guy calling me and trying to get a deposit from me. Dont they think they are going to sell all the cars they get the same day they get it. Hmmm I think not.

I think I am getting and EVO.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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IF i were you i'd put a deposit written with vin, Sell at MSRP, and manager's signature to ensure price. Depending on where you live the car might be sold to someone else or traded to a differnt dealer where evo's are more popular?
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