anyone bought anything from Kingpin?
First off id like to apologise. These posts were made days before i contacted Dave and i was haivng trouble getting a hold of anyone. Dave is a great guy along with all the other people at Kingpin. I clearly jumped to conclusions and got nervous cause of a tune i have coming up, thought i wasn't going to get them in time from anyone.
Kingpin is very trustworth and dedicated and im definetly going to them again. If you guys need any parts or even opinions CALL DAVE!( he drives an evo too
) Again, i'd like to say sorry for even attemting to bring down such a reputable shop. I know we'll be seeing big things int he future with their new Evo line so let's help them get off the ground!
Oh and sorry for not answering your calls today i worked from 10am till now. Feel free to call me again tomorrow or PM me the tracking number as i'm off all day.
Thanks again,
Steve
Kingpin is very trustworth and dedicated and im definetly going to them again. If you guys need any parts or even opinions CALL DAVE!( he drives an evo too
) Again, i'd like to say sorry for even attemting to bring down such a reputable shop. I know we'll be seeing big things int he future with their new Evo line so let's help them get off the ground!Oh and sorry for not answering your calls today i worked from 10am till now. Feel free to call me again tomorrow or PM me the tracking number as i'm off all day.
Thanks again,
Steve
Originally Posted by Sap12687
First off id like to apologise. These posts were made days before i contacted Dave and i was haivng trouble getting a hold of anyone. Dave is a great guy along with all the other people at Kingpin. I clearly jumped to conclusions and got nervous cause of a tune i have coming up, thought i wasn't going to get them in time from anyone.
Kingpin is very trustworth and dedicated and im definetly going to them again. If you guys need any parts or even opinions CALL DAVE!( he drives an evo too
) Again, i'd like to say sorry for even attemting to bring down such a reputable shop. I know we'll be seeing big things int he future with their new Evo line so let's help them get off the ground!
Oh and sorry for not answering your calls today i worked from 10am till now. Feel free to call me again tomorrow or PM me the tracking number as i'm off all day.
Thanks again,
Steve
Kingpin is very trustworth and dedicated and im definetly going to them again. If you guys need any parts or even opinions CALL DAVE!( he drives an evo too
) Again, i'd like to say sorry for even attemting to bring down such a reputable shop. I know we'll be seeing big things int he future with their new Evo line so let's help them get off the ground!Oh and sorry for not answering your calls today i worked from 10am till now. Feel free to call me again tomorrow or PM me the tracking number as i'm off all day.
Thanks again,
Steve
It is much easier if anyone needs anything or has questions to just call me, or email/aim me directly.. When you order off the site it is much easier to slip through the cracks.. We have grown from a small shop to a VERY high volume shop overnight due to our inovations, and hard work.. We are by no means perfect but i will say if i mess up i will go the extra mile to make it right.. It is especially hard right now as we just moved from our small shop to an almost 9k sqft shop and 8k sft office space building, so we are still playing catch up, and our STOCK is not where we want it..
If anyone has questions call me up if i can help i will, if you are local drop by the shop(3902 E university PHX az) and hang out..
Thanks again Steve, i appreciate the kind words!
2 sides of a story...
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As for that stroker motor, i was not here when that was built but i did get some details about it.. From what i heard about it is the guy left here VERY happy with a great running motor, went to another shop where more work was done, and then had the problems..
(This is really FUNNY to me.... I am the owner of the KingPINED White EVO... )I told myself I would not post about this problem with Kingpin, but if Kingpin is going to post lies and tell lies of what happen to my car. Then I think the world needs to know, and see photos, live video of when it was towed away from Kingpin to my house, started engine after I finish putting the wire loom back together, fixing my clutch slave cylinder, and installing back my stock turbo. And started the car, and oil was pouring out of the engine onto my garage floor like one of George W. Bush oil wells in Texas. And I video when I called the tow truck to take it to Vivid Racing to fix the problem, and which we did... the mechanic a Kingpin left several bolt loose, and left one of the oil pump front cover bolt out, and that is where the oil was pouring out of my engine. We started the car again, and ran for about 2 mins and the timing belt slipped and the engine stalled, but it was no damage at that time. We had to fix the timing belt, which Kingpin mechanic did not install the timing belt tensioner correctly. We could not stick a pin through the tensioner before we took the timing belt off, so that means the timing belt tensioner was installed incorrectly. We fix that problem.... it was started again.... It ran for at least five minutes in Vivid Racing garage... Vivid Racing mechanic rev the engine to about 3500 rpm about 3 times... We heard rod knock... and when it was back to idle, the engine made some loud knocking sounds and stall imediately! Vivid Racing mechanic tried to start it again, and the engine could not turn, if it was something jammed in the motor. So he tried to turn the engine by hand and could not. He had to turn the engine the opposite way to turn it. Now remember everyone, this is all on video tape LIVE!!! SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE PICS AND VIDEO OF THIS INCIDENT CONTACT ME. We started to take the head off to see what was wrong. First the camshaft bearing caps, two of them with arrows that suppose to face the timing belt, was installed backwards. The head is off, and my new forged pistons were damaged... because Kingpin mechanic used my old intake manifold off my 2.0 liter that had blown up, and broke a piston, and pieces of that broken piston got sucked into the intake manifold and to the other cylinders. When I gave Kingpin my car, I had all spare parts, and it was no need to disassemble my old 2.0 liter, but they did anyways after telling the owner of Kingpin NOT TO!!!! So my new engine had pieces of the old 2.0 in the cylinders and plus 3 little peebles. So we drop the oil pan, and popped rods out... OH MY GOD, the rod bearings were destroyed!!! It seem like the mechanic at Kingpin used Engine Assembly Lube with PUMICE in it. Basically the shop was not very clean eviroment, and the mechanic didn't make sure to have clean hands when assembling an engine. So my crankshaft was ruined, so I had to buy new pistons and rings, and a new crankshaft. Also when Kingpin put my motor together... when we were taking out the pistons and rods, number 2 and 3 cylinders, the rods were backwards, and number 1 and 4 was installed correctly. So if I had driven the car, it would have spun bearing in number 2 and number 3 on the first run. So basically the engine was not an engine, it was a GRENADE!!!!!
So Vivid Racing and I got everything together and the engine is running beautiful and I have no problems now. This is my first time posting about it, and I was not going to, but I got sick of hearing lies from Kingpin that my car was fine and they know it was not. Kingpin's mechanic suppose to came to my house to fix the oil leak, and never showed up, that's why my car went to Vivid Racing because I had a funny feeling that this engine was not put together right.
I am not going to bash Kingpin Performance, I am beyond that. If anyone wants to do business with them, that's your choice. I've heard great things about them, and that's the reason why I went to them. I've had my bad experience, and it would never, never, never happen again and I will just move on. I just don't like when people lie about things and try to get away with it. Wrong is Wrong and it didn't have to come to this. And I rest my case... Thank you
Jay
MYNES PERFORMANCE
As for that stroker motor, i was not here when that was built but i did get some details about it.. From what i heard about it is the guy left here VERY happy with a great running motor, went to another shop where more work was done, and then had the problems..
(This is really FUNNY to me.... I am the owner of the KingPINED White EVO... )I told myself I would not post about this problem with Kingpin, but if Kingpin is going to post lies and tell lies of what happen to my car. Then I think the world needs to know, and see photos, live video of when it was towed away from Kingpin to my house, started engine after I finish putting the wire loom back together, fixing my clutch slave cylinder, and installing back my stock turbo. And started the car, and oil was pouring out of the engine onto my garage floor like one of George W. Bush oil wells in Texas. And I video when I called the tow truck to take it to Vivid Racing to fix the problem, and which we did... the mechanic a Kingpin left several bolt loose, and left one of the oil pump front cover bolt out, and that is where the oil was pouring out of my engine. We started the car again, and ran for about 2 mins and the timing belt slipped and the engine stalled, but it was no damage at that time. We had to fix the timing belt, which Kingpin mechanic did not install the timing belt tensioner correctly. We could not stick a pin through the tensioner before we took the timing belt off, so that means the timing belt tensioner was installed incorrectly. We fix that problem.... it was started again.... It ran for at least five minutes in Vivid Racing garage... Vivid Racing mechanic rev the engine to about 3500 rpm about 3 times... We heard rod knock... and when it was back to idle, the engine made some loud knocking sounds and stall imediately! Vivid Racing mechanic tried to start it again, and the engine could not turn, if it was something jammed in the motor. So he tried to turn the engine by hand and could not. He had to turn the engine the opposite way to turn it. Now remember everyone, this is all on video tape LIVE!!! SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE PICS AND VIDEO OF THIS INCIDENT CONTACT ME. We started to take the head off to see what was wrong. First the camshaft bearing caps, two of them with arrows that suppose to face the timing belt, was installed backwards. The head is off, and my new forged pistons were damaged... because Kingpin mechanic used my old intake manifold off my 2.0 liter that had blown up, and broke a piston, and pieces of that broken piston got sucked into the intake manifold and to the other cylinders. When I gave Kingpin my car, I had all spare parts, and it was no need to disassemble my old 2.0 liter, but they did anyways after telling the owner of Kingpin NOT TO!!!! So my new engine had pieces of the old 2.0 in the cylinders and plus 3 little peebles. So we drop the oil pan, and popped rods out... OH MY GOD, the rod bearings were destroyed!!! It seem like the mechanic at Kingpin used Engine Assembly Lube with PUMICE in it. Basically the shop was not very clean eviroment, and the mechanic didn't make sure to have clean hands when assembling an engine. So my crankshaft was ruined, so I had to buy new pistons and rings, and a new crankshaft. Also when Kingpin put my motor together... when we were taking out the pistons and rods, number 2 and 3 cylinders, the rods were backwards, and number 1 and 4 was installed correctly. So if I had driven the car, it would have spun bearing in number 2 and number 3 on the first run. So basically the engine was not an engine, it was a GRENADE!!!!!
So Vivid Racing and I got everything together and the engine is running beautiful and I have no problems now. This is my first time posting about it, and I was not going to, but I got sick of hearing lies from Kingpin that my car was fine and they know it was not. Kingpin's mechanic suppose to came to my house to fix the oil leak, and never showed up, that's why my car went to Vivid Racing because I had a funny feeling that this engine was not put together right.
I am not going to bash Kingpin Performance, I am beyond that. If anyone wants to do business with them, that's your choice. I've heard great things about them, and that's the reason why I went to them. I've had my bad experience, and it would never, never, never happen again and I will just move on. I just don't like when people lie about things and try to get away with it. Wrong is Wrong and it didn't have to come to this. And I rest my case... Thank you
Jay
MYNES PERFORMANCE
Never herd any bad about Kingpin,but I`ve herd and have had many problems with Vivid ,They lost all my biz .I gave my $40k worth of biz (parts n labor) to sum one Else...All of Vivid Works on Commission..Sounds like SUM rocks got in ur ****..Dont trust em!!!I have a friend who is waiting for 2 small fuel rail pieces , for an "agency"fuel rail ,which is a Vivid product.They take ur C.card # , say they have it n u wonder why u dont have it after 3 weeks.If u dont see and hold the part in ur hand, dont give ur c.card#.My first exp. with Vivid , I had $10k cash on me,I went TO there shop and they gave me one price on the phone , when i got ther it was much more...THEY DONT KNOW WHO THEY TRIED TO ****?$!
another bad blow for them again! the Greddy car, multiple people ordering cams who can't seem to get them, now motors blowing up. what next???? this is the penalty for doing biz in AZ...
Last edited by housedj; Feb 21, 2006 at 09:04 PM.
Originally Posted by topnotchevo
Never herd any bad about Kingpin,but I`ve herd and have had many problems with Vivid ,They lost all my biz .I gave my $40k worth of biz (parts n labor) to sum one Else...All of Vivid Works on Commission..Sounds like SUM rocks got in ur ****..Dont trust em!!!I have a friend who is waiting for 2 small fuel rail pieces , for an "agency"fuel rail ,which is a Vivid product.They take ur C.card # , say they have it n u wonder why u dont have it after 3 weeks.If u dont see and hold the part in ur hand, dont give ur c.card#.My first exp. with Vivid , I had $10k cash on me,I went TO there shop and they gave me one price on the phone , when i got ther it was much more...THEY DONT KNOW WHO THEY TRIED TO ****?$!
Originally Posted by EVOONYOASS
A weeeee bit late laddy!
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
After reading this, it amazes me that you have that much cash to throw around...
Originally Posted by topnotchevo
Never herd any bad about Kingpin,but I`ve herd and have had many problems with Vivid ,They lost all my biz .I gave my $40k worth of biz (parts n labor) to sum one Else...All of Vivid Works on Commission..Sounds like SUM rocks got in ur ****..Dont trust em!!!I have a friend who is waiting for 2 small fuel rail pieces , for an "agency"fuel rail ,which is a Vivid product.They take ur C.card # , say they have it n u wonder why u dont have it after 3 weeks.If u dont see and hold the part in ur hand, dont give ur c.card#.My first exp. with Vivid , I had $10k cash on me,I went TO there shop and they gave me one price on the phone , when i got ther it was much more...THEY DONT KNOW WHO THEY TRIED TO ****?$!
I have a headache after reading the paragraph above. If you want to call it that.


