With the advent of the increased ecu capacity and functions in the Evo IX ecu the use of piggy back type devices - particularly those which do not independantly control knock - becomes more and more hap hazzard and half assed (IMHO)

The new IX ecu is a technogical power house with huge potential, it needs an appropraite tuning tool to adjust it in a effective manner

 

Hey bud, Sorry but I have to fix your post. We tuned our 9 on EcuTek. NOT UTEC.
It is a superior flashing program. Not a piggyback.
Also Let me also say that not every flash program is NOTcreated equal. That is why we chose the EcuTek.
I have seen plenty of people make good power with an AFC for many years.
On a side note everyone should keep in mind, that on this particular ECU the 9 has, THE FULL POTENTIAL of the car will not be seen with an AFC. Please I am not bashing it, just speaking from proffesional expertise.
Also let me say that I specifically did not bash anyone. Everyone has their preferences. This is a great car that can benefit from any type of EMS. I mention that in post on page 1. I hope everyone keeps up the good work
My two cents.

 

About half of this was useless arguing about who is a prck and the best tuning tools.

I don't give a rats *ss what number the thing put up. I want to see a baseline chart vs, tuned chart. Jesus, the switzer dyno said the 9 made @290 whp. It's just a number. I want to see gains over stock. This thread is useless without a baseline graph. Do you have one or not?

 

totally agree. The afc is a good quick tool to get a little more power out of you car. I would love to get a flash but personally here in vegas I haven't seen a proper one yet. Granted the only one I've seen is Dynoflash on some of the Vegas guys. The results made me bitter of flashes all together. Maybe getting flashed on a dyno rather than the street would help.

 

Let me edit something. In my post I said something wrong so I edited it forgive me. ALL flashes are NOT created equal.
We will be at SEMA next week if you would like to stop by and talk. If you have any questions or to shoot the **** stop by the EcuTek Booth.

 

yeah i was planning on it. If I could find a good flash program it would be good business for that company cuz I'm sure the rest of the Vegas Guys will jump on board.

 

+1 x 10

 

SAFC without a reflash screws up you timing down low. You will usually be running a few degrees lower timing around 3-5k RPM.

The stock ECU determines load by your MAF Hz (AIR going thru the MAF). A SAFC lowers the amount of of Hz the ECU see's so it can deliver less fuel to the engine. The stock ECU however will determine load by how much Hz (AIR) is going into the engine. Since your altering that signal the ECU will then adjust timing to a lower load point. You can make good numbers up top but down low the numbers are no very impressive.

 

Sorry. I meant EcuTek.

Anyway, I'm sure you guys will see a baseline from TT in the near future. But come on, the SAFC is a nice simple alternative for some. While it might not be "superior," it's basic and straightforward. And good just to see some quick numbers. And my original point about the baseline is that plenty of cars have baselined around the 225 mark IIRC on TT's dyno. Switzer also has the same dyno that gave very high numbers for the WR equipped car. Personally, my XEDE equiped car put down 306, 306 on the TT dyno so I'm thinking the IX number is pretty good.

 

Like I said in the previous post, the AFC has been used for years with great results.
The EcuTek comment was toward any other flashing program on the market.
In conclusion I agree with your post.

 

First vboy425 has earned himself a couple days off from the forum for his inability to follow the rules.
Second, this thread is marginal in the first place since TT is not a vendor on this site so all the people propping them are only moving this thread closer to deletion. It's okay for them to post the thread about the car but if it becomes a "sell" then the thread will be removed since they do not pay to advertise on this site.

 

LOL @ you thinking the motor is spiking 10 hp here and there. smoothing is set to correct the dyno measurement's numbers, not the engines power. Do you feel your car bucking up and down when you accelerate? Probably not unless you have a problem, so those spikes are an inaccurate representation of actual output.

regardless, anyone can set smoothing at 0 and get peaky crap numbers like you did. But everyone (except you for some odd reason) doesnt do that. Wonder why. this thred is worthless, and so are your numbers.

 

Are you for real?? A sell?? I thought this was a evo community website......for information and furthering the knowledde of evo owners. The OP was not a sell by any means.......we did it to share the results of our research of the new non 4 plug evo ecu and the safc working on the new IX. We dont post very often but we thought this woul dbe good for everyone. Guess we were wrong since its being received by Evolutionm.net in this way.

 

One worthwhile point that a lot of people are missing is that the IX and a SAFC are compatible. I guess everyone just took that for granted.

 

We put the smoothing at zero not to get peaky numbers but to show raw data......set the smoothing up to 3 which is average the peak hp goes down 3hp. set it to 5 and ot goes down 4hp. Big difference huh. this thread is over.