Help me with my first car choice
listen, pick a car becuase it is what you want, all you are gonna get here is opinions. Very few people would pass up a chance for them to have a car given to them by there parents let alone the fact u get to pick what you want, thats cool....Make it what you want and not what you here you should want
someone previously said get a mustang. i would have to agree with that. my car (99 gt) is the easiest car i've ever driven (besides the evo) and it produces great power. for straight line performance, this is definitely the way to go. you can purchase a GT for fairly cheap. i picked mine up with 64000 miles on it for approx 11k. Cobras are a little more but well worth the money. if you go this route and are interested in a cobra, stay away from the 03/04's as your first car.
Originally Posted by aznindianboi
Well pretty soon i will be getting my first car. i am looking now at the 350Z,Evo 9, or the WRX STI, i want basically a nice car in the 35,000 or below range. if u got any tips please give them. so far i see that the 350Z has the most hp for the cheapest but i like the Evo's look
LOL why dont u buy my almost brand new 2005 WHITE SRT-4 dump the rest of the money into it and u can have ur self a good low 11sec car!
get the evo
I recentley bought a 03 evo and before hand had a buddy of mine do research. In the stright like the STI will beat the evo slightley but when it comes to turns and all around performance the evo smashed the STI. I also met a guy with a 350z and i told him i thought about getting one before the evo and he told me to be glad that i didnt.
I haven't read all the pages of posts, just the original thread. I won't patronize you by saying that a 16-year-old is likely to get in big trouble in any car that has near-300 hp. (Oh, I guess I did say that.)
I used to own a 2003 350Z Track model, and I now own a 2004 EVO RS. Before I bought the EVO it was a very close decision between it and the WRX STi, and I test drove the STi twice, talked to owners at the racetrack, researched it on the internet, etc. It was a close choice, but I'm glad I picked the EVO.
The only thing that the 350Z has to recommend over the EVO is that it is a better-looking, 2-seat sports car, and will attract chicks more than an EVO. That's a big consideration at your age.
All that being said, the EVO is a way better car than a 350Z, and at least a little better than an STi. I have run 45 HPDE track days in my EVO, and 15 - 20 in my 350Z before that. Take all that for what its worth.
I used to own a 2003 350Z Track model, and I now own a 2004 EVO RS. Before I bought the EVO it was a very close decision between it and the WRX STi, and I test drove the STi twice, talked to owners at the racetrack, researched it on the internet, etc. It was a close choice, but I'm glad I picked the EVO.
The only thing that the 350Z has to recommend over the EVO is that it is a better-looking, 2-seat sports car, and will attract chicks more than an EVO. That's a big consideration at your age.
All that being said, the EVO is a way better car than a 350Z, and at least a little better than an STi. I have run 45 HPDE track days in my EVO, and 15 - 20 in my 350Z before that. Take all that for what its worth.
Ok, back to the teenage stats, this is taken from all state insurance, very large company and very reputable, the national statistic for a teenage at the age of 16 to get into an accident of any kind wether it be a fender bender or cash into the wall, is 59%, very STAGERING, at the age or 17 it's 52% and untill your about 19, it stays above a 30% rate. Now of the 59% believe it or not, 8% of the accidents end in fatality (60% were drinking), 68% of the accidents are major collisions and the rest are fender benders and accidents under 3000. Now of these, i bet the majority of the accidents were based off showing off, reckless driving, talking on the cell phone, or some type of distraction, i believe that the majority of us here now this and do not make up this majority, but the tone of how you posed up your questions and why you even bothered to ask about 3 PERFORMANCE cars leads me to believe that this ain't no daily driver that will be driven carefully, you are looking for a car to show off, smoke some other car on the roads, and that has some status, well, i think alot of us would agree here that no one spends 30k on a daily driver at that age so i'm going to say this very clearly. This AIN"T NO DAILY DRIVER, YOUR INTENT IS TO SOME SORRY RICERS, and IN THE PROCESS I KNOW THIS IS GONNA END UP AS A TOTAL EVO. So don't listen to us, get ur "PERFORMACE DAILY DRIVER" that your supposedly goning to drive responsibily and when u crash it, well, tough luck, and if u crash into my friends and kill them, know who i'm coming after, you. And as for me, i'm 17 about to turn 18, my first car was a 1999 corolla with 80,000 miles on it, then i got an RSX Type-S as step up to learn pocket rocker performace and limits, i've driving the thing on open parking lots (NO ONE THERE) auto x style rain and shine, i know the limits like the back of my hand, and now i'm going for an evo. I gradually learned the limits, and i'm not stupid enough to push the limits on the road where you can hit other idiots like you. Besides that, you learning stick on this car ain't that great of an idea as i know your goning to tear that clutch up and then ur gonna spend another 3g to get a new one in there and so one, take ur stupid question else where. And yes asking what a good 30+k performance daily driver would be for a 17 year old is STUPID knowing ur intentions.
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Originally Posted by ballistic speed
Ok, back to the teenage stats, this is taken from all state insurance, very large company and very reputable, the national statistic for a teenage at the age of 16 to get into an accident of any kind wether it be a fender bender or cash into the wall, is 59%, very STAGERING, at the age or 17 it's 52% and untill your about 19, it stays above a 30% rate. Now of the 59% believe it or not, 8% of the accidents end in fatality (60% were drinking), 68% of the accidents are major collisions and the rest are fender benders and accidents under 3000. Now of these, i bet the majority of the accidents were based off showing off, reckless driving, talking on the cell phone, or some type of distraction, i believe that the majority of us here now this and do not make up this majority, but the tone of how you posed up your questions and why you even bothered to ask about 3 PERFORMANCE cars leads me to believe that this ain't no daily driver that will be driven carefully, you are looking for a car to show off, smoke some other car on the roads, and that has some status, well, i think alot of us would agree here that no one spends 30k on a daily driver at that age so i'm going to say this very clearly. This AIN"T NO DAILY DRIVER, YOUR INTENT IS TO SOME SORRY RICERS, and IN THE PROCESS I KNOW THIS IS GONNA END UP AS A TOTAL EVO. So don't listen to us, get ur "PERFORMACE DAILY DRIVER" that your supposedly goning to drive responsibily and when u crash it, well, tough luck, and if u crash into my friends and kill them, know who i'm coming after, you. And as for me, i'm 17 about to turn 18, my first car was a 1999 corolla with 80,000 miles on it, then i got an RSX Type-S as step up to learn pocket rocker performace and limits, i've driving the thing on open parking lots (NO ONE THERE) auto x style rain and shine, i know the limits like the back of my hand, and now i'm going for an evo. I gradually learned the limits, and i'm not stupid enough to push the limits on the road where you can hit other idiots like you. Besides that, you learning stick on this car ain't that great of an idea as i know your goning to tear that clutch up and then ur gonna spend another 3g to get a new one in there and so one, take ur stupid question else where. And yes asking what a good 30+k performance daily driver would be for a 17 year old is STUPID knowing ur intentions.
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hang on a minute, here's a solution:
1.) Get an Evo
2.) Remove the turbo system and the rear spoiler (so it doesn't attract others)
3.) Keep the removed parts locked up until you're at an age sensible enough to use them. Don't worry if you don't know what age this is, there seems to be many experts out there on this
4.) Install a speed limiter of some sort. Say 90mph.
What you'll end up with is probably the safest car out there in terms of grip and braking.
In fact, just buy an evo and do an engine swap with a lancer.
1.) Get an Evo
2.) Remove the turbo system and the rear spoiler (so it doesn't attract others)
3.) Keep the removed parts locked up until you're at an age sensible enough to use them. Don't worry if you don't know what age this is, there seems to be many experts out there on this

4.) Install a speed limiter of some sort. Say 90mph.
What you'll end up with is probably the safest car out there in terms of grip and braking.
In fact, just buy an evo and do an engine swap with a lancer.
Oh and to add to my 186th post, i intend to do SCCA Solo class and i plan to be very involved in organized and leagal motor sports, first chinese F1 driver yeah (dunno if there has been one yet), lol
Originally Posted by x838nwy
hang on a minute, here's a solution:
1.) Get an Evo
2.) Remove the turbo system and the rear spoiler (so it doesn't attract others)
3.) Keep the removed parts locked up until you're at an age sensible enough to use them. Don't worry if you don't know what age this is, there seems to be many experts out there on this
4.) Install a speed limiter of some sort. Say 90mph.
What you'll end up with is probably the safest car out there in terms of grip and braking.
In fact, just buy an evo and do an engine swap with a lancer.
1.) Get an Evo
2.) Remove the turbo system and the rear spoiler (so it doesn't attract others)
3.) Keep the removed parts locked up until you're at an age sensible enough to use them. Don't worry if you don't know what age this is, there seems to be many experts out there on this

4.) Install a speed limiter of some sort. Say 90mph.
What you'll end up with is probably the safest car out there in terms of grip and braking.
In fact, just buy an evo and do an engine swap with a lancer.
buy an evo and drive the hell out of it no..no better yet have your mommy and daddy buy you 100 evos then you can have back-ups
(as the dollar signs of an upped resale value dance through my eyes)
jk
no i started as any normal kid did with a pos car and no driving exp. drove for 2 years got some exp. then bought a Grand National spent all my money on getting it into the 10s and drove that daily for 2 years and never crashed once but i would bet money that if i learned how to drive on a car that had more than 250 horses and braking and handling charctristics
of the evolution i would most definatly be dead now
DO NOT learn how to drive with this car IMO
(as the dollar signs of an upped resale value dance through my eyes)
jk
no i started as any normal kid did with a pos car and no driving exp. drove for 2 years got some exp. then bought a Grand National spent all my money on getting it into the 10s and drove that daily for 2 years and never crashed once but i would bet money that if i learned how to drive on a car that had more than 250 horses and braking and handling charctristics
of the evolution i would most definatly be dead now
DO NOT learn how to drive with this car IMO
Originally Posted by IXMR
buy an evo and drive the hell out of it no..no better yet have your mommy and daddy buy you 100 evos then you can have back-ups
(as the dollar signs of an upped resale value dance through my eyes)
jk
no i started as any normal kid did with a pos car and no driving exp. drove for 2 years got some exp. then bought a Grand National spent all my money on getting it into the 10s and drove that daily for 2 years and never crashed once but i would bet money that if i learned how to drive on a car that had more than 250 horses and braking and handling charctristics
of the evolution i would most definatly be dead now
DO NOT learn how to drive with this car IMO
(as the dollar signs of an upped resale value dance through my eyes)
jk
no i started as any normal kid did with a pos car and no driving exp. drove for 2 years got some exp. then bought a Grand National spent all my money on getting it into the 10s and drove that daily for 2 years and never crashed once but i would bet money that if i learned how to drive on a car that had more than 250 horses and braking and handling charctristics
of the evolution i would most definatly be dead now
DO NOT learn how to drive with this car IMO
Originally Posted by IXMR
buy an evo and drive the hell out of it no..no better yet have your mommy and daddy buy you 100 evos then you can have back-ups
(as the dollar signs of an upped resale value dance through my eyes)
jk
no i started as any normal kid did with a pos car and no driving exp. drove for 2 years got some exp. then bought a Grand National spent all my money on getting it into the 10s and drove that daily for 2 years and never crashed once but i would bet money that if i learned how to drive on a car that had more than 250 horses and braking and handling charctristics
of the evolution i would most definatly be dead now
DO NOT learn how to drive with this car IMO
(as the dollar signs of an upped resale value dance through my eyes)
jk
no i started as any normal kid did with a pos car and no driving exp. drove for 2 years got some exp. then bought a Grand National spent all my money on getting it into the 10s and drove that daily for 2 years and never crashed once but i would bet money that if i learned how to drive on a car that had more than 250 horses and braking and handling charctristics
of the evolution i would most definatly be dead now
DO NOT learn how to drive with this car IMO
Doesnt matter if people on here are jealous.
Other people in your area will see you get out of the car and key the **** out of it unless your big and can hold your ground and knock some heads this car really isnt for you. People will judge you without even knowing who you are as the
"rich little indian kid whos father is a doctor and buys him evos"
Other people in your area will see you get out of the car and key the **** out of it unless your big and can hold your ground and knock some heads this car really isnt for you. People will judge you without even knowing who you are as the
"rich little indian kid whos father is a doctor and buys him evos"
Originally Posted by LSR
I to had many choices when I went out and bought a nice sports car. From the G35, Svt Cobra, STI, Evo., 350Z, RX8, M3.
You need to drive each of what you are looking.
I After driving all of them, AWD is what narroowed down my choices and leaving the STI and the Evo.
Them I research the two. After research, I learned that the Evo. powerplant was buulet proof and the car was mod. friendly.
The STI had better paint than the Evo.
The options that come standard on the Evo. such as brembo's and so many other winning factors. The Mag. test is what eventually pushed me towards the Evo. due to the close performance of the Evo. vs. STI and the fact the Evo. had less engine cc's.
That in itself said alot about the car and all around performance of the car. Handling and braking of the Evo. is unbelieveable for show room stock.
I was glad I chose the Evo. and will be buying my second Evo. in a few months and this time a MR model.
Don't be fool by hp figures and hype of other car companies.
The Evo. is
and will have you
and everyone that pulls next to you like
And if you notice of all my choices. I didn't buy the highest hp vehicle, but what I thought and many others agreed was the best.
Just my $0.02
You need to drive each of what you are looking.
I After driving all of them, AWD is what narroowed down my choices and leaving the STI and the Evo.
Them I research the two. After research, I learned that the Evo. powerplant was buulet proof and the car was mod. friendly.
The STI had better paint than the Evo.
The options that come standard on the Evo. such as brembo's and so many other winning factors. The Mag. test is what eventually pushed me towards the Evo. due to the close performance of the Evo. vs. STI and the fact the Evo. had less engine cc's.
That in itself said alot about the car and all around performance of the car. Handling and braking of the Evo. is unbelieveable for show room stock.
I was glad I chose the Evo. and will be buying my second Evo. in a few months and this time a MR model.
Don't be fool by hp figures and hype of other car companies.
The Evo. is
and everyone that pulls next to you like
And if you notice of all my choices. I didn't buy the highest hp vehicle, but what I thought and many others agreed was the best.
Just my $0.02
I concur with your assessment but I would like to add that the G35 also comes in an AWD version, the G35X. After driving the Evo and the STI, the Evo is handles more like what I think a performance car should handle like. The absolutely HUGE bump on the nose of the STI was a real turn-off for me from the drivers seat as it eclipsed a portion of my vision of the road. It was just too noticable.
The G35X is a serious contender in that price range as well, except you absolutely MUST put coilovers and at least a supercharger on it. Of course, with 6 cylinders, you could get really obnoxious and put a twin turbo setup, build up the internals, work on the tranny etc and be pushing 600hp easy on pump gas. All in decent luxury.

Myself, I went with a 92 Talon so I could spend more money on modding it than on the car itself all while staying in a reasonable budget. I am looking at 500 ft/lb torque and 450 hp on pump gas.
I would go with the Evo if I were looking for a brand new car.
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