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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Road & Track: EVO IX MR vs. WRX STI

I just got my December issue of Road & Track. There's a short (2-page) article comparing the 2006 EVO IX MR and the Subaru WRX STI.

EVO wins on every performance measurement except skidpad, where STI pulled 0.01g more.:

0 - 60 mph: EVO 4.7; STI 5.1
0 - 100 mph: EVO 12.7; STI 13.8
1/4 mile: EVO 13.5 @ 105.9 mph; STI 13.6 @ 99.6 mph
Braking 60 mph: EVO 116 ft.; STI 120 ft.
Braking 80 mph: EVO 204 ft.; STI 216 ft.
Slalom: 69.0 mph; STI 68.2 mph
Skidpad: STI 0.92g; EVO 0.91g

The author said: "In my opinion, there is no car that will love you more than an EVO will. As a road warrior, its sharpness, directness, and aggressive yet forgiving nature leave the STI no choice but to step aside."

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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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even w/ the new models..........WE still have the upper hand!!!!
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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evo trapped 6 mph more and was only a tenth quicker in the 1/4?
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wicked1251
evo trapped 6 mph more and was only a tenth quicker in the 1/4?
Thats what I was about to say.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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evo trapped 6 mph more and was only a tenth quicker in the 1/4?
That STi was a pig.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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That is weird, as is the fact that the STI can't break 100 mph in the 1/4 mile, and that the EVO is 1.1 second faster to 100 mph. I'm just reporting what I read. I think the difference may lie in the fact that the EVO is weaker in the low revs, so that the STI probably pulls off the line quicker, but when the EVO turbo really scrolls up, it just flies past the STI.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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ya im sorry but somethin isnt right when you trap 6mph more and only a tenth quicker in the 1/4 mile. Only way thats possible is if the evo had a 60ft time of 2.1 and the STI had like a 1.7. Since these guys are trained drivers I find it hard to believe the 60ft's are that off from each other. Anyone know how the hell they test these cars? Do they actually go to a drag strip or do they just do testing via a third wheel? With STI supposed to be 300hp and evo ix 286hp, it doesnt make sense that there would be close to a 60hp difference (from the 6.x mph difference) with the cars being relatively similar in weight.

I do know that these cars they test usually isnt a car off the production car lot, usually the motor is stock, but its blue printed and balanced before they are given these cars to "test".
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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very interesting!
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Road & Track is a high class operation that has been around forever, and they know what they are doing. I was there when they were track testing the new Corvette Z06 at Willow Springs Int'l Raceway (big track) in SoCal a couple of months ago. They had all sorts of sophisticated speed measurement equipment.

The STI has 14 more hp and 11 more lb.ft. TQ, but weighs 50 lbs. more than the EVO. Those numbers aren't all that significant and probably don't explain the difference. Go figure.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KFC-AWD
ya im sorry but somethin isnt right when you trap 6mph more and only a tenth quicker in the 1/4 mile. Only way thats possible is if the evo had a 60ft time of 2.1 and the STI had like a 1.7. Since these guys are trained drivers I find it hard to believe the 60ft's are that off from each other. Anyone know how the hell they test these cars? Do they actually go to a drag strip or do they just do testing via a third wheel? With STI supposed to be 300hp and evo ix 286hp, it doesnt make sense that there would be close to a 60hp difference (from the 6.x mph difference) with the cars being relatively similar in weight.

I do know that these cars they test usually isnt a car off the production car lot, usually the motor is stock, but its blue printed and balanced before they are given these cars to "test".
Exactly. I have the issue upstairs, and if I recall, some of the test numbers looked fishy. With a trap of 105 mph, the Evo should've been way ahead of the STi. That wasn't the case, and it surely isn't a matter of traction with these two cars.

Car & Driver and Road & Track always have a tendency of doing BS testing. Back around 1997, I bought a VHS documentary called "The Fastest American Cars In America," or something like that, and R&T couldn't run an LT1 Camaro to faster than 14.9 @ 93 mph. Then, they did a test on a Vortech supercharged LT1 Camaro, and couldn't muster faster than 13.5s. These tests are crap.

The best ways to see what a car really runs is to go to the track and see. There's no way that 2 good running cars are going to run diferences as significant as the ones in that test.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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As I think more about it, there might be something wrong with the EVO numbers. Since it was able to run 0 - 100 mph in 12.7 seconds but ran the 1/4 mile in 13.5 secs at 105.9 mph, that means it took a full 0.8 secs to go from 100 mph to 105.9 mph, when the car is going ***** out. Does that sound right? Maybe so, I really don't know.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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What about the price of both, Are they the same too or not?
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Price at tested:

IX MR $36,584
WRX STI $33,660
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