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Road & Track: EVO IX MR vs. WRX STI

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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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and MSRP for non-MR IX is $31,399, IX with SSL $34,519
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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the only thing hurting the Evo is the climbing price tag.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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As I think more about it, there might be something wrong with the EVO numbers. Since it was able to run 0 - 100 mph in 12.7 seconds but ran the 1/4 mile in 13.5 secs at 105.9 mph, that means it took a full 0.8 secs to go from 100 mph to 105.9 mph, when the car is going ***** out. Does that sound right? Maybe so, I really don't know.

My break in period ended last night on my IX MR and I will say that it DOESN'T take .8 secs to go from 100 to 105.9!
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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That is weird, as is the fact that the STI can't break 100 mph in the 1/4 mile, and that the EVO is 1.1 second faster to 100 mph. I'm just reporting what I read. I think the difference may lie in the fact that the EVO is weaker in the low revs, so that the STI probably pulls off the line quicker, but when the EVO turbo really scrolls up, it just flies past the STI.
Is there a gear change in there? Couldnt that explain the .8 sec
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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My break in period ended last night on my IX MR and I will say that it DOESN'T take .8 secs to go from 100 to 105.9!
Sorry, wrong quote. No more drinking and posting.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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It would be nice to see what the RS model will do at the track. Being around 100 pounds lighter.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Could the Evo's 5000 RPM rev limiter cause a relatively slow launch, explaining the discrepancy? The STI can launch much harder at 6000+ RPM.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Exactly. I have the issue upstairs, and if I recall, some of the test numbers looked fishy. With a trap of 105 mph, the Evo should've been way ahead of the STi. That wasn't the case, and it surely isn't a matter of traction with these two cars.

Car & Driver and Road & Track always have a tendency of doing BS testing. Back around 1997, I bought a VHS documentary called "The Fastest American Cars In America," or something like that, and R&T couldn't run an LT1 Camaro to faster than 14.9 @ 93 mph. Then, they did a test on a Vortech supercharged LT1 Camaro, and couldn't muster faster than 13.5s. These tests are crap.

The best ways to see what a car really runs is to go to the track and see. There's no way that 2 good running cars are going to run diferences as significant as the ones in that test.
They have on board GPS measurment tools, they usually use those to measure these specs but those computers usually are dead on acurate with GPS, and even g-force computer like the g-tech are dead accurate too
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Sorry, wrong quote. No more drinking and posting.
What would my life be without drinking and posting?
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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What would my life be without drinking and posting?
Cheers to that!

Nice rides btw.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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if they are testing with GPS tool and not an actual 1/4 drag strip, then the mph they get will not be the same as an actual drag track. As you all know a drag track measures the mph by a method between two points at both the 1/8 and end of 1/4 mph.. Those R&T tests are measuring the mph exactly at the end of the 1/4 mile then, which is probably 4mph too high. That would put the Evo around 101.x and STI at 95.x with an actual 1/4 mile track timing system
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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we don't know if they used GPS tools or a strip, but most magazines do their testing with GPS tools, and for people who think i'm talking about a normal GPS, i mean a very complicated performace computer with features like the g-tech only using GPS measurments acurate to +-1.0m with WAAS
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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the times are usually accurate unless you get lots of wheel spin. The mph will always be off though, just like with a G-tech, mph will always read higher on those than at an actual track.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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The timing maybe off, but the EVO still kicked the STI's butt.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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in best motoring, the evo lost to the STI in the auto x, and 1/4, but it won in the high speed salom
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