My Evo to STi Story (Long)
Originally Posted by ChrisF
If you think Subaru is any different, you're crazy. Drive anything other than a stock STi/WRX into a dealership for warranty service and whatever problem you're having will be blamed on your mods. IT's S.O.P. Mazda did the same thing with my 3rd gen RX7. This is the main reason our EVO is bone stock. For gods sake, the service rep at my local dealership tried to tell me that the reason my car was grinding into second is that my motor was not designed to be revved that high (6000 RPM's). I asked "then why is the little red line start at 7000?" After I had an intelligent technical discussion with the service manager, their story changed. Point being, if you want to ensure the least trouble obtaining warranty service with a high performance car, DON'T MOD IT!
[pK]Lightening: We'll be waiting to hear back from you when you have an issue with your STi after it is modded and the Subaru dealership gives you hard time about warranty...
You play, you pay ... simple
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Actually you won't because I don't plan to mod the STi. Still, you have a perfectly valid point that at no point in this thread have I tried to challenge. If I were to mod the STi the way I modded the Evo, I'd expect the some static.
HOWEVER:
I wouldn't expect it to take 13 weeks, I wouldn't expect them to blame everything possible in an effort to weasel out of the work, and I would STILL expect them to fix it if it turned out to be crankwalk.
HOWEVER:
I wouldn't expect it to take 13 weeks, I wouldn't expect them to blame everything possible in an effort to weasel out of the work, and I would STILL expect them to fix it if it turned out to be crankwalk.
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Originally Posted by [pK]Lightning
It took them 11 weeks to properly diagnose the problem. Sure, some of that was waiting for the oil test to come back, but that's hardly my fault. I told them what was in there, and in the end I provided the documentation they needed. After the 11 week diagnosis it took them 2 weeks to get the parts and fix the issue, then it took me 72 hours to settle into the seat of an STi.
But from your side of the story, it sound like they have an inept service department.
For what it is worth Fram filters cause many issues with VW and Audi motors.Noisy lifters upon start-up due to the lack of a built-in checkvalve.Some filters when installed wouldn't allow proper oil pressure(too low).
Originally Posted by GPTourer
^^^^ In the DSM world (and I thought in Evo world) it is a given to only use OEM Mitsubishi filters.
Originally Posted by Arithmetic
Good god, what the hell is wrong with that dealership? Threads like these scare me away from purchasing a used or new evo. My local dealership is also a pain in the ***, so I stay away from that as much as possible, but the next closes one (ontario mitsu) isn't much better at all (had a really really bad experince w/ them).
With that said, good luck w/ the STi.
With that said, good luck w/ the STi.
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Speaking from experience I have to agree completely. Although I beleive copper shavings would be a big test for any filter, my lifters probably wouldn't have been clogged if I'd used Mobil1 or K&N filters. When in doubt, better safe than sorry, better to have and not need than need and not have, don't put all your eggs in a fram-basket, and of course... go with what you know. I'm likely to steer VERY clear of FRAM filters in the future.
Originally Posted by GPTourer
It wouldn't have happened if you had come and said, "I broke my engine, how much will it cost to fix it?"
Originally Posted by evodst
Interesting... I too have heard of major engine issues with newer vehicles all with Frahm filters. I guess you get what you pay for!
Apparently the drain back is prone to leak and it has a cardboard end cap. Although they mention the Tough Gard is better than the regular Extra Gard.
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Originally Posted by ZK
Check out this review: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oil...html#fram-ph8a
Apparently the drain back is prone to leak and it has a cardboard end cap. Although they mention the Tough Gard is better than the regular Extra Gard.
Apparently the drain back is prone to leak and it has a cardboard end cap. Although they mention the Tough Gard is better than the regular Extra Gard.
Wow, I have the same problem with my seatback (the hard plastic is broken) and didn't know it was a general problem. Just like with the clear-coat peeling off the Brembo brakes, I thought it must have been something I did. Thanks for letting me know about this.
Originally Posted by wookie
There was a thread on here earlier today regarding the seatback's breaking & it didn't sound like most dealerships were replacing them in a heartbeat with no questions asked. You're probably making the assumption that most Mitsu dealerships are straight forward like you seem to be. Mitsu's poor cust. svc seems to be a constant & reoccuring theme on this forum.
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Originally Posted by RiversideMitsu
I dont understand why they didnt want to take care of you. Mitsu is aware of the caborn fiber wing clear coat problem and has a TSB on the matter. It even says the customer can pick between the evo 8 or 9 spoiler. But to let the customer know that the 9 wing has been updated and should resolve the problem. Report that dealerships lack of wanting to help via 1-800-222-0037.