For all you High-Horsepower guys.
Originally Posted by djmikeymike
Michelin Pilot Sport's are better all around tires but to say "They make the stock Advan's look VERY sad" that is just not true! if you want the best dry street performance tire you can't do any better then the Advans!
rt615 i beg to differ
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Originally Posted by Varrius
Sigh, when will you learn to stop being Warrtalon's lacky, buddy? And actually, I paid for a tire that has been PROVEN on the autobahn and Nurburgring. I paid for C3M technology, with three rubber compounds strategically laid across the tread to allow me to haul *** if it starts to rain,(Which it does on Earth, if you didn't know) while you slide out of control and I maintain every bit of my tires ability. I paid to be able to out-perform crappy tires from a bargain box that are made by a company who is very young. I paid for the tire mounted on cars you could only dream of even seeing.
Originally Posted by Varrius
The Advans are only good for up to 168mph. They are W rated. The Pilot's are a much more stable tire in all conditions.
The Falkens are a dry performance tire and do that better than anything cheaper than the stock Advans as far as non-R compound tires anyway. here is a comparo that includes the pilot sport A/S
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ll&sortValue=3
Here is one with the stock Yoko's, they do not have falkens on Tire Rack
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ll&sortValue=6
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ll&sortValue=3
Here is one with the stock Yoko's, they do not have falkens on Tire Rack
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ll&sortValue=6
Originally Posted by scorke
Just about any one that isn't stock and has a flash....
Scorke
Scorke
Originally Posted by Varrius
There are some that can. It's not just the max speed, though. The Y rating means it is more STABLE under all conditions then a W rated tire. So, for example. You'll brake better out of 100mph then you would with a W rated tire. You will take the corner with less chance of breaking loose then a W rated tire.
The tire salesman really did his job well, didn't he. Sorry you believed him and made an impulse buy rather than talking with us first. . .
Originally Posted by Varrius
I paid for C3M technology, with three rubber compounds strategically laid across the tread to allow me to haul *** if it starts to rain,(Which it does on Earth, if you didn't know) while you slide out of control and I maintain every bit of my tires ability. I paid to be able to out-perform crappy tires from a bargain box that are made by a company who is very young. I paid for the tire mounted on cars you could only dream of even seeing.
NEXT THREAD HE STARTS: "I wrecked my evo last night"
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Originally Posted by EVOlutionary
Absolute B.S.
The tire salesman really did his job well, didn't he. Sorry you believed him and made an impulse buy rather than talking with us first. . .
The tire salesman really did his job well, didn't he. Sorry you believed him and made an impulse buy rather than talking with us first. . .
Originally Posted by Varrius
Yeah, lets call up the German Engineer's who mounted these on their more-expensive, faster-overall, better-accelerating, cars like SL 55 AMGs, etc. Lets see why they chose these and not the Falken's. Their Rice-Boy phone should be ringing shortly.
Originally Posted by race17k
haha! sorry i have my own opinions.... wait a minute are you a tire salesman by day and a wanna be race car driver by night because it sure sounds like it!
Originally Posted by LimPShoT
Man you cant compare a AWD EVO to a RWD ferrari, Mercedes, Porsche they are totally different animals and require different shoes to fit accordingly.
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Originally Posted by Varrius
Even Lamborghini Gallardo's and Murcielago's? They have AWD, last I checked. It's funny though. I don't ever recall a Falken tire being on ANY production car from the factory. They must be targetting the ricers with the small wallets.
Originally Posted by Varrius
No, people said they tested the Pilot Sports, not the Pilot Sport A/S. Take a look at this:
Pilot® Sport A/S
The most technologically advanced all-season tires we make, Michelin® Pilot® Sport A/S tires offer all-season performance without sacrificing any of the outstanding handling qualities for which Michelin Pilot tires are known. . . .
Pilot® Sport A/S
The most technologically advanced all-season tires we make, Michelin® Pilot® Sport A/S tires offer all-season performance without sacrificing any of the outstanding handling qualities for which Michelin Pilot tires are known. . . .
1 - NO ONE would but the summer tires - why do that when you can get an all seaon tire that handles just as well in the dry???
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2 - their Pilot tires are known for non-top-of-the-line handling, so the A/S tires are equally as mediocre as the rest of their lineup
Originally Posted by Varrius
Yeah, lets call up the German Engineer's who mounted these on their more-expensive, faster-overall, better-accelerating, cars like SL 55 AMGs, etc. Lets see why they chose these and not the Falken's. Their Rice-Boy phone should be ringing shortly.
Because you bought a $30k car instead of a $200k car then you have a bit of money left over to buy a decent set of snow tires for the winter . . .
The Michelins are a great ALL SEASON tire, no arguments there. But they certainly do NOT compare to the Falkens, Advans, or most other high perf. Japanese tires for summertime driving.
FYI, last year's National Championship in autocross was won in part on stock EVO ADVAN tires in the rain. They whooped azz on high-dollar Hoosier rain tires.