E-BAY parts that work well (evo only)
I also got my 3" SS mandrel bent turbo back exhaust from ebay for $222 shipped. Just got it today so haven't had the chance to put it on yet. Quality looks really good. We proly go the same exact one Dave99gst. Glad to hear that if fits great. Think i'll be installing mine tomorrow. Cant wait!!!! lol
I also got my 3" SS mandrel bent turbo back exhaust from ebay for $222 shipped. Just got it today so haven't had the chance to put it on yet. Quality looks really good. We proly go the same exact one Dave99gst. Glad to hear that if fits great. Think i'll be installing mine tomorrow. Cant wait!!!! lol
Ebay/ssac intercooler do not heatsoak unless you believe the shops who have something to lose by trying to discredit the e-bay unit, I have run one to 119 traps on a stock turbo and 29 psi.
It works just fine for me, No holes or heatsoak here, Hell I have known people in the 9's with them.
I am sure AMS and buschur etc are better because they cost more
They are prolly better but the very little extra performance does not warrant 7x the price.
It works just fine for me, No holes or heatsoak here, Hell I have known people in the 9's with them.
I am sure AMS and buschur etc are better because they cost more
They are prolly better but the very little extra performance does not warrant 7x the price.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=482734
http://92civic.tripod.com/
......and this was taken directly from Turbo Magazine:
http://www.turbomagazine.com/feature.../xs_power.html
http://92civic.tripod.com/
......and this was taken directly from Turbo Magazine:
http://www.turbomagazine.com/feature.../xs_power.html
Turbo: What are your thoughts on all these knockoff companies looking to cheat their way into making a buck or two off the AMS name? For example that $400 turbo kit on the Internet we were looking at earlier?
Martin: (Laughing) Junk? That's ridiculous. When we first started manufacturing products we found a company called XS Power using a photo of our actual intercooler and couplers. They used pictures of our actual product, but sold the consumers some crappy knockoff. It's disgusting because you put a lot of time and effort into designing a product that's proven to work. What pisses me off is that when a company and their products finally establishes themselves as reputable to the public, some knockoff company magically comes along and takes that same idea and builds on that cheaply. The quality suffers and the name becomes tarnished because consumers seemingly associate the knockoff product that's complete garbage to your company's name. The sad thing is that a lot of consumers in this market shop on price alone and purchase this crap.
Turbo: They basically buy into it.
Martin: Not only do they buy into it, but the sad part is it's more expensive because they end up buying the product twice because it doesn't perform as well and/or it breaks or falls apart.
Turbo: The hardheaded consumers will argue that the intercoolers are built exactly the same. Can you prove them wrong?
Arne: We took that fake one and tested it out on the dyno against our own AMS intercooler setup. We found Internet people complaining how we charge too much for an intercooler when the knockoff is nearly half the cost. They look the same, but on the dyno the knockoffs make no more power than a factory unit.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo Ams Performance Nissan 240Sx S13
Martin: I think the knockoff stuff is still a big problem. We could try to sue them but overseas patent laws and variations to the products make them less applicable to lawsuits, preventing us from doing anything. If I can come face-to-face with these people I'd like to ask them, "Do you have a soul? How do you sleep at night?" We love doing what we're best at and that's building quality products. Fake blow-off valves and fake wastegates can leak and kill performance on cars like Evos, which use a MAF setup causing them to run erratic. My theory is: Buy what you need to get the job done but don't go cheap and skimp on quality. Our production costs are high because the quality is good. Good welders, good equipment-it comes down to only the best products we make and offer to our customers.
Martin: (Laughing) Junk? That's ridiculous. When we first started manufacturing products we found a company called XS Power using a photo of our actual intercooler and couplers. They used pictures of our actual product, but sold the consumers some crappy knockoff. It's disgusting because you put a lot of time and effort into designing a product that's proven to work. What pisses me off is that when a company and their products finally establishes themselves as reputable to the public, some knockoff company magically comes along and takes that same idea and builds on that cheaply. The quality suffers and the name becomes tarnished because consumers seemingly associate the knockoff product that's complete garbage to your company's name. The sad thing is that a lot of consumers in this market shop on price alone and purchase this crap.
Turbo: They basically buy into it.
Martin: Not only do they buy into it, but the sad part is it's more expensive because they end up buying the product twice because it doesn't perform as well and/or it breaks or falls apart.
Turbo: The hardheaded consumers will argue that the intercoolers are built exactly the same. Can you prove them wrong?
Arne: We took that fake one and tested it out on the dyno against our own AMS intercooler setup. We found Internet people complaining how we charge too much for an intercooler when the knockoff is nearly half the cost. They look the same, but on the dyno the knockoffs make no more power than a factory unit.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo Ams Performance Nissan 240Sx S13
Martin: I think the knockoff stuff is still a big problem. We could try to sue them but overseas patent laws and variations to the products make them less applicable to lawsuits, preventing us from doing anything. If I can come face-to-face with these people I'd like to ask them, "Do you have a soul? How do you sleep at night?" We love doing what we're best at and that's building quality products. Fake blow-off valves and fake wastegates can leak and kill performance on cars like Evos, which use a MAF setup causing them to run erratic. My theory is: Buy what you need to get the job done but don't go cheap and skimp on quality. Our production costs are high because the quality is good. Good welders, good equipment-it comes down to only the best products we make and offer to our customers.
To those who think an intercooler is just an intercooler, it's all about what you use it for. if its just a DD with no racing, road course, auto x, an Ebay intercooler should work well. The second you see a HUGE difference is when you push that intercooler to it's limits with a time attack or auto x when you are going ballz to the walls for 6 + minute sessions nearly back to back.
I have personally had nothing buy issues with Ebay parts, I bought an exhaust for a friend off of Ebay and the exhaust exited the opposite side of the car!!! WTF is that all about...
Call me an idiot but I would rather pay for good quality parts by a company and know that when it gets installed that it works well and the fitment is A+. I have a fully built AMS car to the tune of 501 whp and 465 ft lbs of torque with a small turbo upgrade..... I would love to see a car fully built with ebay parts and put out some good quality numbers and that will last...
I get irritated with these ebay threads because people get irritated that their car is not putting down the best numbers or they have a leaky this that or the other and you find out they bought the parts off of ebay.
In theory this is a good thread for those who think buying a part from AMS/Bushur, etc..... is a dumb idea.
why don't you start another thread with dyno numbers of FULLY BUILT WITH EBAY PARTS.
I have personally had nothing buy issues with Ebay parts, I bought an exhaust for a friend off of Ebay and the exhaust exited the opposite side of the car!!! WTF is that all about...
Call me an idiot but I would rather pay for good quality parts by a company and know that when it gets installed that it works well and the fitment is A+. I have a fully built AMS car to the tune of 501 whp and 465 ft lbs of torque with a small turbo upgrade..... I would love to see a car fully built with ebay parts and put out some good quality numbers and that will last...
I get irritated with these ebay threads because people get irritated that their car is not putting down the best numbers or they have a leaky this that or the other and you find out they bought the parts off of ebay.
In theory this is a good thread for those who think buying a part from AMS/Bushur, etc..... is a dumb idea.
why don't you start another thread with dyno numbers of FULLY BUILT WITH EBAY PARTS.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=482734
http://92civic.tripod.com/
......and this was taken directly from Turbo Magazine:
http://www.turbomagazine.com/feature.../xs_power.html
http://92civic.tripod.com/
......and this was taken directly from Turbo Magazine:
http://www.turbomagazine.com/feature.../xs_power.html
Lol I bought a knockoff $100 exhaust manifold off e-bay because it was only $100 and I wanted to see if it was worth anything. I had a buddy throw on some extra welds for support, he comes back laughing because he's never seen such shotty welding before. We go to mount it on anyway just to see and the holes don't even line up with bolts to mount the manifold to the block. I laughed all the over to my scrap pile and tossed it in. Piece of s**t eBay parts strike again!!!! Long story short I paid $200 for a piece of scrap metal when I could have paid $600-700 and had a quality part..... Pay more the first time!






